May 23, 2025 • 56 mins
The gang gives a rundown on antinatalist terrorism, deportations to South Sudan, a potential DHS reality TV show, and Biden's pro-state cancer. Plus, updates on Palestine, the FBI, tariffs, and immigration.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Also media.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly
newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,
and what it means for you. I'm Garson Davis. Today
I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout, and Sophie Lichterman.
This episode, we are covering the week of May fifteen
to May twenty. First, Joe Biden has prostate cancer. There's
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anti natalist terrorism, and the DHS is maybe gonna do
a reality TV show. Probably not, but it's a bad plan.
How are we doing this week?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
That's a trifector from hell.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah, it's so bad.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
This one's so bad. It's really I have to do
the laughing like right here, because good Lord, like, oh
many many of these weeks are bad. This one's particularly bad.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I don't know, DHS reality show.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
We'll get to that at the at the ending segment. Sure, Hey,
this is Gear from the Future cutting in. We recorded
this a few hours before some pretty major news, the
shooting of two Israeli embassy staff in DC. We will
be talking about this in next week's Executive Disorder, as
well as the new budget bill, which targets trends healthcare.
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Now back to the episode, I think let's start with,
you know, a brief acknowledgment of Joe Biden's prostate cancer.
What was Jill doing to him? Oh my god, Garrison.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
You could have said that at the bottom, man, you didn't.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'm allowed to say that because I'm the most gay,
guye coded person on the podcast, which is saying something
so so yes then and now, because we live in
a truly sick world. Scott Adams couldn't even let.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
He couldn't let him have his moment.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
He couldn't even let Joe Biden have his moment. This
anti Biden hatred has transcended so far that's got Adams
couldn't even let Biden have this moment and announced the
same day that Scott Adams has the exact same type
of prostate cancer. So two down, Biden down, Dilbert down.
Big week for prostate cancer.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
And boy, how do you have people been weird about
it on the internet.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I'm not going to get into how long he maybe
has known he's had it. He's he's had skin cancer
removed before. I think that ship has mostly sailed. I
think our opinions on Biden are pretty are pretty well,
pretty well documented. Yeah, so I don't think we can
dedicate much more much more time to this.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Okay. The one important note that I will say is,
if you have a prostate get checked for prostate cancer. Yeah, like, yeah,
get the screening. It's good, it'll help.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
You, unless you are over seventy five, in which case
I think most people don't get screened for it, right
because it's slow.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Gross.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I'm pretty sure Biden's over seventy five.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, that's why somewhat I thought it was somewhat remarkable
part of the issue there.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I mean, all I can say is about once a
month I think about how at the DNC those thank
you Joe Chance lasted four seconds.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I have actually been thinking about the thank you Joe
Chance for a lot of this time yes week. Frankly,
you had to be there. Yeah, it's one of the
most it's one of the most horrifying, horrifying things. As
they let this like very clearly dying old man out
to pasture because like you know, kinds are diagnosis aside,
very clear he was in some some degree of decline.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
We don't need to retread this.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
This is this is pretty well known, but no, I
have been thinking about how that whole auditorium broke out
and chanting thank you Joe for like nearly five minutes.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And then the following the rest of the week not
a single mention it was done that day.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It was wild anyways, So yeah, ri Ip Dilbert, I
guess let's move on to anti natalist terrorism. So I've
learned this week that people don't know what anti natalism is, which,
as someone who grew up in Portland, is kind of
surprising to me because there was some very very prominent,
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like anti naedalist protesters who were set up downtown outside
of Powell's books pretty frequently, and we kind of all
grew accustomed to them, and honestly, I'm a little bit
sympathetic to their arguments. I understand where they're coming from.
Anti natalism is the belief that procreation is unethical. This
can be based on the idea that there's been like
this rapid increase in human population which is on extensive
damage to the planet, or that's simply being born is
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inherently a non consensual act, especially being born into a
world with high levels of suffering. So these people opt
to do not have children. As this ethical standpoint, everyone's
entitled to their own choice. You don't need to agree
with it, but whatever. Now, interestingly, this past weekend there
was a quote unquote active terrorism that has been linked
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to anti natalist philosophy. I'm just talking about this as
it is an instance of kind of the brain ratification
of this entire society and the reditification of terrorism combined
with this growing sense of like nihilism driving violent extremist actions.
No one was killed except for the perpetrator alleged for
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perpetrator in this in this incident, but I still think
this is worth talking about as it can be seen
as in a sequence of weird terrorism. This is something
that Robert's canna be working on for a piece later
later down the line. Right, this is not the first
car bomb this year. We had the Tesla Tesla cyber
truck explosion earlier, which was similarly kind of a weird,
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a weird incident.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah, that one was.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I think that one, I think was the official inauguration
of the years a lead paint which were perpetually living
in now.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yes, yes, I mean the gas leak here if you will, Yeah,
so yes, on Saturday, maybe seventeenth the car bomb went
off outside a fertility clinic in Palm Springs, California, killing
the suspect, twenty five year old man named Guy Edwards Barks.
The FBI is calling this a quoe unquote intentional act
of terrorism. The clinic was closed when the explosion happened.
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The building was severely damaged, but no embryos were harmed.
Investigators believe that the suspect attempted to live stream the bombing,
with a website being found online that appeared to be
in connection to the incident, where the suspect describes himself
as a quote unquote pro mortalist.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Slightly slightly different, Yeah, correct.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It is more of an affirmative version of anti natalism,
where you want to actually take concrete steps to like
decrease the population of the planet, not necessarily in a
way that's like promoting like the mass killing of individuals.
He says, quote understand, your death is already guarantee and
you can thank your parents for that.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
One.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
All a pro mortalist is saying is let's make it
happen sooner rather than later to prevent your future suffering
and more importantly, the suffering your existence will cause to
all others sent to you. That's his definition of a promortalist.
It can be lily to other philosophies that encourage like
self harm and ending your own life as a conscious choice.
On its website, he discussed his goal of quote sterilizing
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this planet of the disease of life unquote great and
declared the need for a quote unquote war against pro lifers.
His website also highlights other philosophies such as negative utilitarianism, ethlism,
abolitionist veganism. Quote. Basically, philosophies that have realized religion is
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are worded that there is objective value in the universe
and it lies in the harm being experienced by sentient beings.
So although it may seem quote unquote dark, it's the
polar opposite of nonsense like nihilism.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Unquote.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Negative utilitarianism is something that comes up a few times
on his site as well. This is the viewpoint that
instead of positive utilitarism where we're trying to maximize, you know,
human pleasure, this is trying to minimize suffering, human suffering
and like the suffering tied to existence and the like
aggurate suffering as well as if you if there's more people,
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and there's going to be more suffering. So you should
both make choices in your own life that that may
that may limit your suffering, but also make sure that
you don't reproduce, because then even more suffering will happen
because of your actions through your children.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
This is the most barious shit I've ever heard of
my entire goddam very West Coast.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
This is yeah, like twenty nine Palms is not It's
not the West Coast.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Like a lot of this is in conversation with like
the rationalist subculture rationalist. It's like it offers different solutions.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
These these people shouldn't be allowed to use computers for
like fifty years, like just a ban on California using computers.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
This is all like like deeply online stuff like these
are These are popular websites, subreddits like YouTube channels. These
are people who are dealing with like, you know, pretty
intense existentialism depression who then channeled into this like semi
niche like online community and online philosophy. Now Guy's best friend,
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a self described quote vegan rad feme anti natalist, recently
arranged her own suicide by having her boyfriend to shoot
her while she.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Was what what what correct?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yes, this was This was the the bomber's best friend
who died very recently, like last month, and guy claims
that they were both quote unquote anti sex, missandrists with
borderline personality disorder, and he admits that her death quote
unquote put him over the edge.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
This is the most. This is the most online like
like like best vegan best friend, anti natalist, has her
boyfriend shoot her is the most.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Even though her her anti natalist tumblr page has like
women loving women, anti gender ideology, miss andry stuff and
yet still has a sisterender boyfriend. In many such cases,
so yeah, you can see how this type of a
community gets like fostered and people make online friends and
then encourage their own self destruction.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Yeah, you have to destroy the Internet.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
A quote that he has on his website is quote,
I've known for years now that I wasn't going to
allow myself to make it.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Past my twenties unquote.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And like this is a sentiment I hear even a
lot of like young people saying is this, like this
like belief that they're not going to survive their twenties,
like their belief that like the world is so bent
on destruction that I'm probably not going to make it
out of my twenties right now, and that that that
changes the kind of choices that young people are making,
and this is this is getting increasingly common.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, for sure. I think it's a very different world
to be growing up in than like the late teenage,
early twenties of you know, like millennial people.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
The millennial world.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
It's very it's very different.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, And we had manifestations of this in that millennial era, right,
I think it got kind of pushed into this, like
like nihilistic school shooter culture, which you still see remnants
of now in the true krime of community. There is
some crossover between an act like this and some of
like the school shooter fandom the Columbiner stuff, especially considering
the resurgence of Columbiner culture that we're currently seeing right
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now in the United States. But yeah, the general sense
of like widespread dread and the interconnectedness of this is
more unique.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I keep thinking about that Hunter S. Thompson quote about
like those poor bastard troop but when after nine to eleven,
don't know, the party's over. The party is over, and yeah,
welcome to hop.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So the suspect's dad said to reporters that Guy had
a childhood obsession with pyrotechnics. He set the family home
on fire and burned it down he was nine. He
made rockets, stink bombs, smoke bombs as a child. Videos
on YouTube, likely posted by Guy show m eighties exploding
in the desert, a hydrogen balloon being set, a blaze,
and a bucket of radioactive uranium?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Or is that what did he obtain that like out
there in Wonder Valley?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
This is still being investigated. His voice in these videos
matches the thirty minute audio manifesto explaining his motivation for
the attack, same quote. Basically, it just comes down to
I'm angry that I exist and that you know, nobody
got my consent to bring me here. Basically, I'm anti life,
and IVF is kind of like the epitome of pro
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life ideology.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Unquote.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
This is out there.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Is there any information on the I'm just because a
lot of explosives and other munitions have gone missing. Twenty
nine Palms people, My familiar is a town near ish
to Palm Springs, near it to Joshua Tree. There's a
pretty big military base. Yeah. Yeah, it's the big marine
corde like detO warfare training.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Explosives have gone missing there before. The basic claims that
they've been recovered. It is unclear what explosives he used
at this point. It was a pretty large explosion. Investing
are low key impressed at this explosion.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Like it was.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
It was what they said in that official statement, if
you read between the lines, they're like surprised at how
effective this car bomb was.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Again, this was a guy who spent a lot of
time online, a lot of time on Reddit. It seems
like he got obsessed with this. He had a fascination
with explosives at a young age. So that obsession combined
with this anti natalist obsession and this urge for self
destruction manifested in this action.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
This this week, Reddit banned anti natalist, anti life subreddit
allegedly frequented by bomber.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I dude, just want to say that this is I
think the only IVS clinic in the Coachella Valley, So
like for people who are accessing those services, that's a
serious disruption, right M Yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So I, me and Robert are going to talk more
about kind of this trend that we're seeing in in
extremism or or in extremist acts. I still don't like
the nihilist buy an extremism term, but we are seeing
elements of that getting more and more common, especially to
my with the true crime community, which essentially tries to
encourage young girls to commit school shootings.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, I guess to finish up, I just want to
say that, like, I know, it's a really hard time
right now. A lot of people are trying to find
ways to cope or feeling like they can't cope or
feel like they're not enough.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I guess hopelessness. This sort of like existential nihilism.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, And I've combined that with a lot of people
who work for the government fundly finding themselves out of work,
and you know the economic pressure that puts on people.
And I understand that people are pretty in a tough
spot right now who want to save very briefly obviously,
like the world is more beautiful with you in it,
and if you're experiencing suicidal ideation or mental health struggles.
(14:41):
A couple of resources I want to suggest, the Fireweed
Collective and the Jane Adams Collective. Adams spelled with two d's,
there a double Dams. We will have links to both
of them in the showdoes you can also put them
into Duck dut go And they were the first responses
that came up for me. If you need those resources,
reach out to them as people.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, it's it's good to see the sunrise, and it's
better to see the sunrise with everyone you love in it.
And yeah, that's that's a thing that you can make
sure you do every day.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
M hmm.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
All right, thank you, James, thanking me a. We're gonna
go and break and then come back to discuss immigration.
All right, we're back, James. I see the amount of
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text you have. This is a very long section jail
of text.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I assume this is all good news. So let's uh,
let's hear it all right, Garyson, I'm so glad that
you have seen my wall of text because I have
been looking at court documents for days. So much fun
on pacer.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You have been pacer posting in the group chats.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, I have been court listener as well. Okay,
so this is one of the more insane things I've
seen on pacer. In a minute. I'm talking about the
case here of mister NM, who was identified at some
point and we'll get an m NM. Yeah, it's not
uncommon for migranty in these kind of high profile cases
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to be anonymised where they can right just for their safety.
So NM received a final removal order in Nebraska in
twenty twenty three, and on the seventh of May, DHS
attempted to apport an m to Libya. You'll remember that
we covered that week's ed right, they did not manage
to do that. And in this court case, we've seen
from another detainee that one of these detainees was given
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a document to sign and told that he would quote
be a free man in Libya after signing. Obviously unclear
how one can be a free man when one is
just dumped into a country when one does speak the language,
has no contact, there is a war.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Doesn't make sense in any way.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
This man is not from Libya, that's correct. None of
these people are Libyan.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
And again, whenever seven someone says the the word Libya,
you have to figure out which Libyan government you are
talking about, because there are multiple of them, because there
is a fucking civil war going on there right now.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
So yeah, and whenever someone talks about people being free
in Libya, we should bear in mind that migrants are
literally sold into slavery in Libya by both governments. Yes,
M's English is limited. His main language is Karene, which
of course is a language that people speak in Cartule,
the Karen home land, which is part of Miaanmar. On
the nineteenth of this month, that's two days ago, I
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sent a notification to his lawyer saying that they'd read
him a notice of removal in English that they were
removing him to South Africa. Ten minutes later, they attempted
to recall this message, and then later that same day
they notified his lawyer that they'd once again read notice
of removal to him in English, that he was being
removed to South Sudan. South Sudan the world's youngest country,
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if we're not familiar, a country that is in which
conflict is escalating as we speak, governments carrying out a
barrel bombing campaign this very week. His councils set up
a video meeting at nine am on the twentieth, but
just before that meeting, his council found out that he
had already been removed. Mister M had refused to sign
the order of removal to South Sudan and we're seeing
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right now in a court case. It's a class action.
Mister NM is one of the members of the class.
Right that there was a preliminary injunction against these people
being removed because they are the same people who the
Trump administration previously tried to remove to Libya, and at
this point they tried to remove them to South Sudane.
Before they are sent to these places, they're supposed to
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have a reasonable fear screening right. That is where someone
can articulate if they have a reasonable fear of being
removed to that country, right like if they will be
persecuted there, they're likely to face torture or violence, or
or be picked on because of who they are. Right
then they're supposed to have a fifteen day opportunity to
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submit a motion to reopen if the Department of Home
out Security finds that they don't have reasonable fear.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
So they're supposed to be this process where they can
say I have a reasonable fear of going there, if
I go there or be persecuted, and if the AHPs says,
nobody don't believe you, then they have fifteen days to
submit Okay, more evidence.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Right are they being allowed to do that or no.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
No, got it. That is what this case hinges on. Right.
So they were informed, possibly hours before they were moved
to South Sudan that they were being moved to South Sudan.
Then they were taken to a secure facility where they
couldn't contact their lawyers. And in at least the case
of mister NM, he had scheduled an appointment with his
lawyer and was deported before he could do so. Right,
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And this is seven a few times before as well. Yeah,
that's correct in the past few months, that's right. Yeah,
and specifically, there was a primary injunction against this right. So,
quoting from Judge Murphy, who is judging the Massachusetts District
Court where this is being held, the government's actions are
unquestionably violative of this court order. The government said they
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have complied with my order because they didn't hear anyone
yelling at their jailers that they are afraid to go
to South Sudan. This is clearly insufficient. Yeah, So what
he's articulating here is like this chance to articulate reasonable fear. Right.
I do want to point out that in Biden's asylum
ban that he passed in twenty twenty four, they move
from a question of are you afraid to go back
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to your home country to what's called a shout test,
where the migrant has to articulate that reasonable fear unprompted
right to have a chance at asylum in the United States.
So this again, like all these immigration things, I'm not
saying things what the same under Biden by I'm saying
that there is a pathway to how we got here,
and it goes through Biden's executive boarder.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
And like Miller is very willing to use anything in
his toolbox.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, and anything that look for decades,
castro or liberalism has built a series of tools which
now lie in the hands of a very illiberal government
right and they are being used against people for whom
those who supported castor or liberalism may have some sympathy.
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That is how we got here. That's a good way
of putting in. So the situation we are at right
now is that these people were flown seemingly in a
Gulf Stream jet. Gillian Brockell, who's a formula Washington Post
reporter who were going to have on the show next week,
was able to identify this jet based on where it
took off and its call sign it's stopped in Shannon
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in Ireland. Notably, Shannon is an Irish civilian airport, right,
it's not a US air Force base. This does raise
some questions within Ireland, within Irish politics about Irish neutrality here. Right.
The jet then flew onto Djibouti, which it is believed
is where the migrants are. Right now, in court the
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discussion probably half an hour before we recorded this, DHS
is claiming that they can do their credible fear interviews
there on the tarmac in this plane, which people are
saying is in Jobouty. Right, there's some suspicion that it's
in Jobouty. DHS is claiming that the location of the
plane is classified, but this widespread belief that this plane
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is currently in Djibouoty, including as I say, Julian was
first and hy T published something that didn't credit her.
Should have credited her. So to do the credible fear
into you, right, they have to have a chance to
research what will happen to them in South Shoda, They
have to have access to a lawyer. Most of these
people like mister NM will also have to have a translator.
Right then, they will also have to have privacy, right,
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their credible fear may be something they don't want to
share with everyone else on that plane because that could
also put them in danger.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yes, also, just like that's a baffling place to suggest
somebody have that intimate or private of a conversation. It's
just such a violation of their human rights.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah, many human rights being violated here. So yeah, I mean,
the US has a big base in Jibouti, right, so
I imagine that's why they're there. Remember that they have
that fifteen day period, So if DHS finds that they
don't have credible fear, then they will have fifteen days
right to bring another to reopen that. Where will they
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be housed? Somewhere in fucking drabooty presumably if that's where
they are, right. There are many many unanswered questions at
this point. Now, last night we learned that one of
the Burmese people, it appears that there are two Burmese people.
We know this because the Department of Homeland Security today
started tweeting mugshots of these people Jesus yeah and uh wow, yeah,
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claiming that they were convicted of various crimes. Among them
were two Burmese men and m appears to be Nio
Miant and the other appears to be Cure Mea. Both
of these men have been accused of various a big convicted,
I believe of sex crimes, and that's where they got
their removal orders. Other people among the dozen or so
people on the plane have been convicted of some of
them like one of them is South Sudanese and he
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was convicted of removing the serial number from a firearm
and of armed robbery, others, murder, and and various other
fairly serious crimes. Right, none of that means that you
should just get dumped in South Sudan, right that it's
not a punishment in US law. It is not a
morally or legally acceptable thing to do.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
It's just truly baffling, honestly. Like that, that's what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
That's the move.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah, the move is to send themselves Sudan where It's
worth noting that South Sudan's government have said it will
probably send these people back to their home countries. Sure,
evidently the reason they are not being sent there is
because they have articulated a fear of going there, or
they have protection. It's called withholding of removal right, so
they can't be removed to that country and basically that
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is where at evidents they manage to remove. Apparently somebody
to Burma today or late last night. I'm still waiting
on my sources in me and mart to confirm that
they the Burmese hunter is as leaky as a sieve. Right,
If those people are land that we will know about
it pretty soon. We have pretty good sources in Burma,
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so if that happens, we will know. They also discussed
another party, right, someone who goes by OCG, a gay
guatemrlon man who asserted credible fear of being returned while
in immigration court. He was deported to Mexico, where he
also asserted credible fear. Mexico gave him a choice of
remaining Mexico going to Guatemala. He went to Guatemala where
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he is now in hiding. The DHS claimed he said
he didn't have credible fear, and then later reverse that
and said they didn't ask. So the judge is now
asking how on earth they got this conclusion he didn't
have credible fear and deported him. He's saying he might
potentially put DHS officers on the stand to explain how
this happened. In other immigration news, Ice just today this
(25:44):
is Wednesday has apparently been dismissing court cases against people
who turn up for hearing an immigration court and then
immediately arresting them. What the fuck right there.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
In Jesus fucking Cross.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah, Like, it's a little unclear what the movie here,
but clearly they're trying to remove them in a more
expeditious way. Right, they have a court case, try to
remove this person, they're saying.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Because the court case has, like you know, a certain
amount of time needs to process. If they dismiss the
court case, then.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
They may have a right to appeal and yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
If it's dismissed, then they can expedite other like non
judicial removal.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yeah, well they can do what they're doing here. Yeah,
they can try and get and run people out before
they have a chance to get to their lawyer. Right.
Like that seems to be the underlying team of all
of these things, which is that your due process and
your right under the law are two time consuming, So
we're going to try and make an run around your
rights by sending you to somewhere fucking horrific. That is
(26:39):
the underlying theme here. Unfortunately, this removal will likely now
affect a lot more people because a Trump administration has
removed the twenty twenty three Temporary Protected Status of Thenezualan People.
We talked about TPSS in my Darian series. The TPS
provides protection from deportation to people who are already present
(26:59):
in the US when it passes. Generally, it's if a
country has experienced war or other like instability that makes
it dangerous. You have to apply for the TPS. They
don't provide a pathway to permanence or citizenship, but they
do give people work authorization and they often have to
be frequently renewed by the Executive branch. You have to
be in the US the day it's issued, so you
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can't enter after. Despite what you might have seen on
Twitter or whatever, that's not the case right. It also
doesn't count as a legal entry, so you can't use
the bridge to a green card. Trump stripped this protection
from about three hundred and fifty thousand Venezuelans under the
twenty twenty three TPS. This does not impact There are
two different tps's for Venezuelan people. They're in a bit
(27:42):
of a unique situation. The quarter of a million people
covered by the twenty twenty one TPS are still for
now covered by that, but it doesn't exactly bode well
for them. Right. This appears to be the largest blanket
removal of legal status from a group of people in
the United States history. And it's a little clear what
this means for the three hundred and fifty thousand Venezuelan
(28:04):
people currently residing in the US under TPS. Right, but
it's another case of like, by their compliance, isolutorly probably
knows where they live. So these people, it's possible that
we will see deportations of these people back to Venezuela. Again,
the situation in Venezuela is dire.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
It's a place where just so many people too.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Yeah, And like I think again, if people haven't listened
to my Darien series, I would like that because I've
got a lot of myself into it. But I have
a great affection for Venezuelan migrants. I've spent a lot
of time in Caracas when I was younger, and I've
spent a lot of time with them in the Darien
Gap and then when they arrive in the United States,
and yeah, it's really fucking heartbreaking to hear. Like, when
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you think of three hundred and fifty thousand people, understand
that a good number of those people will be little children, right,
people who never had any agency, People whose parents risked
their lives to give their kids a chance at a
better future, and that's been ripped away from them right
now with the consent of the Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Like, if you're removing three hundred, like dred thousand people
from our country, that's just straight up and ethnic cleansing, Like,
that's what that is.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
It's about a third of the Venezuelans living in the
United States right now, right, Like, it's it's way more
than decimating. Yeah, obviously we will see what legal recourses
people have. We'll see how this goes down. But obviously
very concerning for these people whose country is falling apart
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and being returned there will be terrible for them, right, Like,
not only will they likely have none of their savings,
all of the resources they poured into getting here, but
they're also likely to face political persecution. So yeah, that's
all the exciting and uplifting news I have from the
immigration side of things. He everyone, it's James with a
(29:52):
pickup today Me and man Now is reporting that the
United States has deported twenty people since April. To Me
and Maar. Most of those people, seven of them have
been released. The remainder of those people are being held
by Burmese military intelligence in a prison that is notorious
(30:16):
for torture, sexual violence, and the general inhumane treatment of
incarcerated people that we've become very familiar with in our
writing about Me andma We don't know who these people
are yet. Obviously, there's a story that I'm looking into
and I will continue to get back to you on.
But it seems like somehow we have not been aware
(30:37):
of this until now, but dozens of people have been deported.
They're saying that twenty seven people in total are expected
to be deported, and twenty already have. So obviously this
is very disturbing news and something we'll keep reporting on. Well.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Thanksgiving us updated on that, James. We're going to go
on break in return to talk about the FBI, Palestine,
and some exciting new reality TV. I'm sad, okay, we
(31:15):
are back. First, I want to do some quick updates
about the FBI. A cash Battel has announced that he's
shutting down the FBI's DC headquarters in dj Edgar Hoover Building.
Around fifteen hundred agents will be transferred around the country.
And in this same interview, Cash Hotel and Dan Bongino
went on TV to say that Jeffrey Epstein died by
(31:38):
suicide and of course Mega yax very normal to this.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
What do they have on this deepstick's gone to them?
Speaker 7 (31:47):
You said, Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
People don't believe it.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion.
But as someone who has worked as a public defender,
as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's
been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing,
you know a suicide when you see one, and that's.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
What that was.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
They killed himself.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Again, you want me to get I've seen the whole file.
He killed himself.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I'm upset because I forgot that Dan Bongina was a person.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yea, let me too, Oh, I have not forgotten. This
is my beat. I so yes, of course Mega is
acting very normal about the affirmation that Epstein killed himself.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Okay, now I'm losing confidence in them both. This is
not good at all cool.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Let me read one, Let me read one. Let's do this.
This is fun.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Sad to see Cash and Bengino have been compromised.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Yeah, your turn, Dan, blink twice if they threatened you
or your family.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Now I got to do what right?
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Yeah, deep state traitor d Ei.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Higher Oh classic class.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
There it is, there, it is. I knew it was
coming as much as he likes to wear his CU
hunting gear.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
But no, there's there's thousands, thousands of comments from these
like like mega Q people who feel feel the trade,
that people like Patel and Bengino have spent years doing
content creation talking about this grand Epstein conspiracy that now
now they claim isn't real or they are in fact
covering up the real conspiracy that that Donald Donald Trump's
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friends with Jeffrey Epstein's. So yeah. There's also an interview
clip where where Trump I was asked if he was
going to release the whole file, and at first he
said yes, and then he caught himself and was like, well,
actually no, we'll probably be we'll probably be careful about
releasing the whole file because it could compromise people, Like
what kind what kind of people you're talking about their
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don anyway, we have a chance.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Of swinging the Epstein demographic. That is our time division
to our enemies.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
The next thing of the doc is I found interesting Gerson.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Oh, this is just one piece of uplifting news. Yeah,
this is I'm just gonna read the headline from VA
because I simply can't improve on it.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
No, it's perfect.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Suspected serial killer shouts out Trump in last words before
he's put to death, Keep making America great. Glenn Rogers
once told police he had killed about seventy people. He
was executed by lethal injection Thursday in Florida.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
That's the way that I knew it would be Florida.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Literally seconds before he got the lethal injection, he said,
President Trump, keep making America great. I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Last words.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
So that kind of shows you the current, like wellspring
of Trump's support right now. That's really hitting his prime
demographic of suspected serial killers.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I just have to.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Say that had big Florida energy.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
For real.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, I think it's time to hear the lucid lullaby
of tariff talk.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
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Speaker 5 (35:16):
You know, all right, before everything gets so so like
I do the most depressing segment I've maybe ever done on.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Here, tariffs that can't be true.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
No, not the teriff, but the next one I genuinely
think is the most impressing secon I've ever done on here,
but the tariffs. So our negotiations with China that we're
supposed to like solve all of the tariff problems are
already breaking down. Both sides are like sniping at each other.
This is not gonna work. It structurally cannot work. That
the US's demands the negotiating table, which is again the
political we're economic rationale behind this, is that the US
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should not have a trade deficit with China that can't
be solved, and it's already breaking down. The talks are
going almost certainly going to fail, and we're going to
be right back to where we were. It's also worth
talking about a bunch of companies have been doing ice raises,
and I think it's worth going back a little bit
to some of the some of the economic work we've
(36:06):
done in this show with the people as Strange Manners
and talking about in our previous episodes about inflation about
how price works, because this is really really badly understood
by just about everyone, which is that the way that
people think about tend to think about price is as like, okay,
it's supply and demand. There's two axes they meet in
a graph. That's not how price is set. Price is
set by like specific people in supply chains, right, Like,
(36:30):
they're constrained by certain factors. And one of the biggest things,
and one of the things, the biggest things they're constrained about,
is that if you raise prices, people get pissed at you.
But the way that they actually do pricing strategies is
cost plus markup. Right, There's a cost of the physical
good and then they do a markup and the markup
is a profit margin. And the thing about tariffs, right,
is that the way the tariffs affect supply chains is
(36:50):
that each part of the supply chain now that's moving,
that's importing stuff, right, each part of those things now
has an additional cost that they have to have to
put into their costless markup.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
You.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Now, Trump wants all these companies to just fucking eat
shit and eat eat the price of the tariffs. He's
been tweeting about this or posting a I think on
truth social and possibly also on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Truth Again, all of his truths have been re reposted
on exos.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Now, yeah, retruthed.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
But the thing is right and in theory, right, like
Walmart could just like take this right in theory, like
like you know, like they're really some of the really
really big companies could in theory do this. They won't,
like they a lot of any other. Thing is like
these companies have an incentive not to raise prices because
it pisses consumers off. And also because Trump is just
direct like directly threatening sanctions on companies that raise prices.
(37:39):
Mattel for the people who make Barbie, said that they
were going to raise prices on toys and Trump is
now threatening them with one hundred per sanctions or one
hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Tariffs only three dolls.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Yeah, so that's you know, the government limited dolls, completely
hindish situation. We've gotten here. We're gonna have doll quotas. Uh.
But you know again again it's it's worth men right
that like in theory, for a little bit of time,
some of these companies can sort of eat this or
they can fuck with their supply chains and the company
has been publicly talking about this. The problem is the suppliers,
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because the distributors tend to have pretty high margins, right,
like your Walgreens, like Amazon a sub except like their
margins are okay, and like Amazon makes most of us
money from government computing contracts in any ways, so it's
not as catastrophic. But the suppliers operate on very low margins.
The shipping companies, everything else along the supply chain operates
on really really low margins, right, And those people have
(38:33):
to raise their price because otherwise they are just going
to die. And when they raise their price right in,
that's an increase to the next company's costless markup, which
increases the next company's costless market, which decreases the next companies.
And we're starting to see this ripple to the supply chain.
Things are disappearing from grocery stores. They're going to continue
disappearing from grocery stores. And as as this goes on,
and as presumably the terrifts from China come back into
(38:54):
effect when these negotiations break down and the next round
of tariffs goes into effect, and deliberate day tariff's come
off their ninety day pause and go to effect. This
is all gonna get worse. This this has been tariff
talk lovely. Uh, this unfortunately was the fun part of
the episode.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, it's gonna get worse Free two one.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Okay, So when I said this might be the bleakest
segment I've ever done on this show, we need to
do an update on Palestine because things have gotten ye. Like,
when when I was kind of opening this episode, I
thought it was gonna mostly be about Trump's plan to
like deport the entire popular, like deport most of the
population of Palestine to Libya. That's not even the immediate crisis.
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The immediate crisis is that, and that's this. That's not
even sure what I'm saying the immediate crisis. Last week,
I thought the crisis was going to be the eleven
week blucket of Gaza and the fact that everyone is
about to starve. Yeah, and so the actual specific thing
that we're getting to right now is Israel. It is
attempting to evacuate. That's their wording. What they're actually doing
is ethnically cleansing basically the entire population of Conunis by
(40:01):
just forcing everyone out of the city. Right. The United
Nations has said that Nearly one hundred thousand Palestinians have
been displaced in Gaza in the last four days as
Israel has been expanding its its ground invasion to the
Gaza strip. This has been combined with the eleven week
long blockade of Gaza. I think by the end of
this week, the week twelve, this has set off an
(40:21):
enormous risk of famine. I'm just going to read this
from Al Jazeira. Quote some seventy days after the Israelian
military halted the entry of food, water, medicine and all
other life saving supplies into Gaza, the report said. This
is a report from a UN a UN backset of
food security group of analysts. The report said, quote goods
indispensable for people's survivals survival are either depleted or expected
(40:44):
to run out in the coming weeks. Quote. The entire
population is facing high levels of acute food insecurity, with
half a million people one in five facing starvation.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
It said.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
Approximately ninety three percent of Gaza's population is experience and
seeing acute food shortages.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
It added.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
The report also said that like one in five people
could starve between now and November. People have already started
starving to death. Israel has been blocking aid from getting through.
They symbolically allowed a small number of trucks in, but
a groups on the ground, and I want to emphasize
that this reporting is coming directly from the Times of Israel.
If you want to understand how bad the situation is,
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the Times of Israel is reporting that A groups from
the ground say that none of the IEA's gotten through
and none of it has been distributed. This is I
don't know how to convey how bad it is indescribable.
Numbers of people are on the verge of starving to
death in the Israelis are simply not letting any food arrive.
They keep talking about how they're gonna let food arrive
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because this is actually this is the first thing I've
seen them do that's actually seriously gotten. I mean not
even seriously, but it's like gotten. A lot of their
Western allies pissed at them because they're just very obviously
trying to exterminate entire population by starving them the death.
And this has caused the UK, Canada and France to
issue a joint statement coming out against the Israeli policy
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and telling them to fucking stop and let food through.
So these people don't starve. The UK is talking about
suspending free trade agreements with Israel. They're talking about like
sanctions at West Bank settlers. The whole group has threatened
that they're going to take more actions unless the Israelis
let food in. Now the Israelis, because of the Israelis
(42:29):
shot at a bunch of diplomats who were visiting a
refugee camp in Janine.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
This was like a few days ago.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yeah, it's like a few days ago. Yeah, yeah, and
so's that's not been like making anyone less angry at them.
It's genuinely remarkable to we've reached a place where like
the UK, Canada, in France, who are all major weapons
suppliers to Israel, are like talking about sanctions, like even
targeted actions, like yeah, you know, and like the UN's
(42:55):
like Human Rights Commission was like, well, this is bullshit.
You can't just targeted sanctions. It is the entire government
doing this. But like, you know, the fact that they're
doing something is an indicator of just how apocalyptically bad
the situation is right now. Yeah, I want to read
this quote from the Guardian from just perennial most fascist
guy in the Israeli government.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
What's he's saying something?
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Yeah, who's their fucking finance minister who said, quote, now
we conquer, cleanse, and stay until Hamas is destroyed. He
told a news conference along the way, what remains of
the strip is also being wiped out, cleans conquered, the
normal things. To say, the extent to which they are
simply doing a genocide here has reached a point where
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even a bunch of Israel's closest allies are going, what
the fuck? I don't know. I really hope that people
are able to force their governments to actually fucking do
something about this, because if they don't, it's going to
continue to get really bad. Yeah, And I mean I
guess right now that's mostly like if you're in like
(43:59):
the U, Canada or France and you think you can
apply more pressure on your government, like, go for it.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Do do it?
Speaker 8 (44:06):
Do that.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
Like, I don't know, I don't know to what extpt
pressure can even be mounted on the Trump administration, but
it's yeah, I think that's pretty much a dead end,
right Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
But like, but seeing these countries align outside of any
US influence to I potentially recognize the Palestinian state. According
to Lamonde, right, like is significant And yeah, people in
those countries should absolutely like stay in the streets.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
Yeah, because like like and this is this is the
thing here, right, Like these countries the stuff that there's
right evening stuff are threatening to do is not enough
to really make a difference here. But like, if they're
willing to do this, they can be pushed further.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Yeah. So yeah, you have to get your foot in
the door.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, and Carney has also seemed susceptible to this, Yeah,
as there has been a block on arm steels to
Israel for the past few months in Canada.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, we're going to close with another story of like
anti humanity, but just a slightly different flavor. And I
know this this does the show does often just end
up feeling like a bad news round up, and that
is because there's a lot of bad news.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
I have good news for the end. Actually that's a
good thing.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
We'll have some good news, yeah, as a treat And
part of the good news here is that this probably
will not end up happening, but it's still useful insight
into the minds of these ghouls. And I've long advocated
that reality TV is basically inherently satanic. I think it's
a spiritual darkness.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
This is offensive to Satanists.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
It is a spiritual darkness that has played the United
States for far too long. I think it's ushered in
a degree of evil that is nearly unfathomable. And the
current administration is essentially a reality TV administration on a
very clear and obvious level.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yes, but did I enjoy watching the Secret Lives of
Mormon Wives?
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I did. I think watching it stuff is actually a
personal moral failure. I think you're channeling darkness into your.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Soul and loving it.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Last week, cutiple outlets reported that the Department of Homeland
Security was considering participating in a reality TV show where
immigrants compete against each other to gain US citizenship. The
proposed series would be called The American. This nightmare has
been dreamed up by Duck Dynasty producer Rob Warsof, and
(46:20):
apparently he's been trying to make this since Obama's second term,
but only now has made progress on getting the necessary
backing from the DHS. After sending Trump's DHS a thirty
five page pitch, Warsof wants it to be quote unquote
the biggest loser for immigration, which, again reality TV is
(46:41):
inherently evil.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
That's fucking insane.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
It should not be tolerated on any aspect of human society. No,
The Wall Street Journal header reads, quote, this isn't the
Hunger Games for immigrants, says the producer behind the pitch.
If you have to say this isn't the Hunger Games
for immigrants, that means this is the Hunger Games for immigrants.
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Getting a lot of questions about my this isn't the
Hunger Games for Immigrants shirt already answered by the shirt
to quote the Wall Street Journal quote. DHS spokeswoman Tricia
McLoughlin said that she had spoken to the producer of
the proposed television reality show and that consideration of the
idea was ongoing. It is quote in the very beginning
(47:28):
stages of that vetting process, she said, adding that quote
each proposal undergoes a thorough vetting process prior to denial
or approval unquote. McLoughlin was also quoted in The Daily
Mail as saying she thought the television show was quote
unquote a good idea.
Speaker 5 (47:45):
Jesus, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
The pitch details that the immigrant contestants would board a
train called the American and ride across the country to
meet quote unquote interesting Americans and learn about the local
history and culture, while competing in regions Pacific quote unquote
heritage challenges to prove they are the most American. Such
cultural contests include balancing on logs in Wisconsin, building a
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rocket at the Florida NASA headquarters, assembling a model t
Ford in Detroit, and collecting gold in a San Francisco
mine shaft. Prizes would be quote unquote iconically American, like
one million American Airlines points, a ten thousand dollars Starbucks
gift card, or a lifetime supply of seventy six gas.
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Immigrants would be split into teams that compete head to
head across one hour episodes, ending with an elimination challenge,
followed by a town hall and a final vote to
quote the producer quote along the way, we will be
reminded what it means to be American through the eyes
of people who wanted most unquote.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
I feel like even this will will humanize migration to
the United States too much for them. They're like that
they will be afraid of that, like of these people
articulating the desire to be here and what it means
to them and I feel like that that doesn't end
well for the administration, that they this might.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Be too liberal for the Trump administration.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
It could be too lip. I'm not even joking.
Speaker 5 (49:15):
This is a concept just should be the death knell
for the idea of America. Like, oh, if America has
an experiment, we tried it. It failed.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
This is the most America thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 5 (49:25):
Like, it's over. Yeah, as an experiment, the American Project
was a fucking disaster, and we need to it needs
to stop because this is what it's done. No more,
no more American Project. The Hitch has pre vetted contestants.
First arriving at Ellis Island a board a boat called
the Citizenship, they are greeted by the show's host, quote,
(49:48):
a famous naturalized American who was also born in another country. Unquote,
the pitt recommends Sophia Verghera or Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Upon arriving. The host would gift to each of them
a personalized baseball.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Glove, America's pastime.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
There's no way Sophia Forgata or Ryan Reynolds would ever
fucking do a show like this.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
That's batshit.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
Yeah, I fucking hope.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
So to quote the producer's pitch. Quote will join in
the laughter, tears, frustration, and joy hearing their backstories as
we are reminded how amazing it is to be American
through the eyes of twelve wonderful people who want nothing
more than to have what we have.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Unquote.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
This is this is one of the most evil things
I've ever I've ever heard of. Yeah, the live finale
would have the winner getting sworn in on the steps
of the US Capitol by a quote top American politician
or judge with F sixteen's flying overhead. Quote. There won't
be a dry fuck me sorry, there won't be a
(50:57):
dry eye in the house unquote.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
There have actually been like high spectacle single individual awards
of citizenship before I'm thinking for example, Hermann Bodger was
a He's often known as like the one man Army
of boona John Botcher. He was, I believe, living as
an undocumented person in the United States when he joined
(51:21):
the Abraham Lincoln Brigade volunteered to fight in the Spanish
Civil War, where he was an officer. He then joined
the United States military and fort again in World War Two.
During the Battle of Boone, he personally led a charge
against several Japanese pillboxes, which he eliminated with grenades. He
then had his ear drum perforated and I believe he
(51:44):
was shot in the arm. He was awarded, I think
he wasn't ordered the Medal of Honor. He was recognized
for his bravery. Congress pass and act to make him
a citizen, and he declined to attend a ceremony because
he wanted to get back to the front lines. That rules. Yeah,
bit of a legend.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, a little bit cooler than the live Grand finale
of the American The pitch clarified that the losers would
not be immediately deported and that the contestants would have
a leg up in applying for citizenship the more traditional
way based on being pre vetted for this show. So
(52:21):
it's good that it's good that he had to clarify
that they would not be immediately deported upon getting eliminated.
That's a good sign.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
Yeah, yeah, another thing that you should always have to
carifind a TV page.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
At a Tuesday congressional hearing, Christinom denied having knowledge of
the reality TV show despite reporting to the contrary, while
also defining hebeas corpus in this hearing as a quote
constitutional right that the president has to be able to
remove people from this country unquote.
Speaker 4 (52:51):
So there you go. Yeah, that's not what that means.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Christinome is a disaster that it's kind of the opposite
of what Abey's corpus is. And there is some central
reporting showing that DHS staff are looking at this pitch.
It might not go through now based on all this backlash,
but they were looking through the pitch, including possibly Corey Lewandowski.
(53:15):
But yeah, that is the reality TV news. James, Do
you have anything anything to end on here is James? Please?
Speaker 4 (53:24):
Yeah, I know something, something a little bit nice. So
for those of you who like me, enjoy a strawberry ice.
Agents arrived at the West Coast Berry Farms facility in Oxnard, California,
earlier this month, where they were met by a gatekeeper
who demanded a warrant and refused to let them enter
the facility without one, and eventually managed to turn them away.
(53:48):
So this is a rare dub I guess clearly, as
we enter the time of year when things need to
be picked in the fields, this will be a place
where I sees the opportunity to conduct its enforcement operations,
and like it is genuinely positive to see that this company,
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I guess, critical support to this company that obviously underpays
and takes advantage of migrant labor that they have provided them.
According to an anonymous source in sf Gate with know
your Rights training, and in this case, the gatekeeper was
able to not let the ICE agents enter and eventually
they left.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Like ICE isn't impervious. Like all week, ICE has been
releasing statements complaining about being compared to to the to
the Gestapo.
Speaker 4 (54:36):
Well once again, right, like another thing that you shouldn't
have to be releasing statements about.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
I am not the Gestapo. Shirt has people asking a
lot of questions. Yeah, and they're also publishing false stats
about ICE officers being assaulted in the line of duty.
So like obviously they're facing some kind of like fear
even among their own agents. That's why they're all like
covered up wherever they go. They're trying to prosecute people
for posting information and on ICE agents in your area.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
Yeah, yeah, but like I say, they're not impervious. There
is a difference between a judicial warrant and a warrant
that ICE has essentially made itself, right, the latter not
being signed by a judge. And it appears that the
gatekeeper was aware of that. We still have courts, You still,
in theory have rights, and you know, well it depends,
but yes, yeah, yeah, theoretically that was a pivotal word.
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But yeah, shout out to the gatekeepers at the Oxnard
Strawberry Plant.
Speaker 5 (55:30):
And they could be stopped by a door keeper. Like,
they can be resisted, they can be stopped from doing things.
Speaker 4 (55:36):
Yeah, and like it is genuinely important that this person
understood the difference between a judicial warrant and these documents
that ICE might produce. And it does illustrate the value
of being educated and educating people in your communities about
these things if they might be at risk for this.
All right, we reported the news.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
Why howdy did we?
Speaker 7 (55:56):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly
newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,
and what it means for you. I'm Garson Davis. Today
I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout, and Sophie Lichterman.
This episode, we are covering the week of May fifteen
to May twenty. First, Joe Biden has prostate cancer. There's
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anti natalist terrorism, and the DHS is maybe gonna do
a reality TV show. Probably not, but it's a bad plan.
How are we doing this week?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
That's a trifector from hell.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah, it's so bad.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
This one's so bad. It's really I have to do
the laughing like right here, because good Lord, like, oh
many many of these weeks are bad. This one's particularly bad.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I don't know, DHS reality show.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
We'll get to that at the at the ending segment. Sure, Hey,
this is Gear from the Future cutting in. We recorded
this a few hours before some pretty major news, the
shooting of two Israeli embassy staff in DC. We will
be talking about this in next week's Executive Disorder, as
well as the new budget bill, which targets trends healthcare.
(01:20):
Now back to the episode, I think let's start with,
you know, a brief acknowledgment of Joe Biden's prostate cancer.
What was Jill doing to him? Oh my god, Garrison.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
You could have said that at the bottom, man, you didn't.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'm allowed to say that because I'm the most gay,
guye coded person on the podcast, which is saying something
so so yes then and now, because we live in
a truly sick world. Scott Adams couldn't even let.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
He couldn't let him have his moment.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
He couldn't even let Joe Biden have his moment. This
anti Biden hatred has transcended so far that's got Adams
couldn't even let Biden have this moment and announced the
same day that Scott Adams has the exact same type
of prostate cancer. So two down, Biden down, Dilbert down.
Big week for prostate cancer.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
And boy, how do you have people been weird about
it on the internet.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I'm not going to get into how long he maybe
has known he's had it. He's he's had skin cancer
removed before. I think that ship has mostly sailed. I
think our opinions on Biden are pretty are pretty well,
pretty well documented. Yeah, so I don't think we can
dedicate much more much more time to this.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Okay. The one important note that I will say is,
if you have a prostate get checked for prostate cancer. Yeah, like, yeah,
get the screening. It's good, it'll help.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
You, unless you are over seventy five, in which case
I think most people don't get screened for it, right
because it's slow.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Gross.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I'm pretty sure Biden's over seventy five.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, that's why somewhat I thought it was somewhat remarkable
part of the issue there.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I mean, all I can say is about once a
month I think about how at the DNC those thank
you Joe Chance lasted four seconds.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I have actually been thinking about the thank you Joe
Chance for a lot of this time yes week. Frankly,
you had to be there. Yeah, it's one of the
most it's one of the most horrifying, horrifying things. As
they let this like very clearly dying old man out
to pasture because like you know, kinds are diagnosis aside,
very clear he was in some some degree of decline.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
We don't need to retread this.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
This is this is pretty well known, but no, I
have been thinking about how that whole auditorium broke out
and chanting thank you Joe for like nearly five minutes.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And then the following the rest of the week not
a single mention it was done that day.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It was wild anyways, So yeah, ri Ip Dilbert, I
guess let's move on to anti natalist terrorism. So I've
learned this week that people don't know what anti natalism is, which,
as someone who grew up in Portland, is kind of
surprising to me because there was some very very prominent,
(04:07):
like anti naedalist protesters who were set up downtown outside
of Powell's books pretty frequently, and we kind of all
grew accustomed to them, and honestly, I'm a little bit
sympathetic to their arguments. I understand where they're coming from.
Anti natalism is the belief that procreation is unethical. This
can be based on the idea that there's been like
this rapid increase in human population which is on extensive
damage to the planet, or that's simply being born is
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inherently a non consensual act, especially being born into a
world with high levels of suffering. So these people opt
to do not have children. As this ethical standpoint, everyone's
entitled to their own choice. You don't need to agree
with it, but whatever. Now, interestingly, this past weekend there
was a quote unquote active terrorism that has been linked
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to anti natalist philosophy. I'm just talking about this as
it is an instance of kind of the brain ratification
of this entire society and the reditification of terrorism combined
with this growing sense of like nihilism driving violent extremist actions.
No one was killed except for the perpetrator alleged for
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perpetrator in this in this incident, but I still think
this is worth talking about as it can be seen
as in a sequence of weird terrorism. This is something
that Robert's canna be working on for a piece later
later down the line. Right, this is not the first
car bomb this year. We had the Tesla Tesla cyber
truck explosion earlier, which was similarly kind of a weird,
(05:36):
a weird incident.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah, that one was.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I think that one, I think was the official inauguration
of the years a lead paint which were perpetually living
in now.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yes, yes, I mean the gas leak here if you will, Yeah,
so yes, on Saturday, maybe seventeenth the car bomb went
off outside a fertility clinic in Palm Springs, California, killing
the suspect, twenty five year old man named Guy Edwards Barks.
The FBI is calling this a quoe unquote intentional act
of terrorism. The clinic was closed when the explosion happened.
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The building was severely damaged, but no embryos were harmed.
Investigators believe that the suspect attempted to live stream the bombing,
with a website being found online that appeared to be
in connection to the incident, where the suspect describes himself
as a quote unquote pro mortalist.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Slightly slightly different, Yeah, correct.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It is more of an affirmative version of anti natalism,
where you want to actually take concrete steps to like
decrease the population of the planet, not necessarily in a
way that's like promoting like the mass killing of individuals.
He says, quote understand, your death is already guarantee and
you can thank your parents for that.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
One.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
All a pro mortalist is saying is let's make it
happen sooner rather than later to prevent your future suffering
and more importantly, the suffering your existence will cause to
all others sent to you. That's his definition of a promortalist.
It can be lily to other philosophies that encourage like
self harm and ending your own life as a conscious choice.
On its website, he discussed his goal of quote sterilizing
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this planet of the disease of life unquote great and
declared the need for a quote unquote war against pro lifers.
His website also highlights other philosophies such as negative utilitarianism, ethlism,
abolitionist veganism. Quote. Basically, philosophies that have realized religion is
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are worded that there is objective value in the universe
and it lies in the harm being experienced by sentient beings.
So although it may seem quote unquote dark, it's the
polar opposite of nonsense like nihilism.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Unquote.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Negative utilitarianism is something that comes up a few times
on his site as well. This is the viewpoint that
instead of positive utilitarism where we're trying to maximize, you know,
human pleasure, this is trying to minimize suffering, human suffering
and like the suffering tied to existence and the like
aggurate suffering as well as if you if there's more people,
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and there's going to be more suffering. So you should
both make choices in your own life that that may
that may limit your suffering, but also make sure that
you don't reproduce, because then even more suffering will happen
because of your actions through your children.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
This is the most barious shit I've ever heard of
my entire goddam very West Coast.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
This is yeah, like twenty nine Palms is not It's
not the West Coast.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Like a lot of this is in conversation with like
the rationalist subculture rationalist. It's like it offers different solutions.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
These these people shouldn't be allowed to use computers for
like fifty years, like just a ban on California using computers.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
This is all like like deeply online stuff like these
are These are popular websites, subreddits like YouTube channels. These
are people who are dealing with like, you know, pretty
intense existentialism depression who then channeled into this like semi
niche like online community and online philosophy. Now Guy's best friend,
(09:09):
a self described quote vegan rad feme anti natalist, recently
arranged her own suicide by having her boyfriend to shoot
her while she.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Was what what what correct?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yes, this was This was the the bomber's best friend
who died very recently, like last month, and guy claims
that they were both quote unquote anti sex, missandrists with
borderline personality disorder, and he admits that her death quote
unquote put him over the edge.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
This is the most. This is the most online like
like like best vegan best friend, anti natalist, has her
boyfriend shoot her is the most.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Even though her her anti natalist tumblr page has like
women loving women, anti gender ideology, miss andry stuff and
yet still has a sisterender boyfriend. In many such cases,
so yeah, you can see how this type of a
community gets like fostered and people make online friends and
then encourage their own self destruction.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Yeah, you have to destroy the Internet.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
A quote that he has on his website is quote,
I've known for years now that I wasn't going to
allow myself to make it.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Past my twenties unquote.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And like this is a sentiment I hear even a
lot of like young people saying is this, like this
like belief that they're not going to survive their twenties,
like their belief that like the world is so bent
on destruction that I'm probably not going to make it
out of my twenties right now, and that that that
changes the kind of choices that young people are making,
and this is this is getting increasingly common.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, for sure. I think it's a very different world
to be growing up in than like the late teenage,
early twenties of you know, like millennial people.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
The millennial world.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
It's very it's very different.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, And we had manifestations of this in that millennial era, right,
I think it got kind of pushed into this, like
like nihilistic school shooter culture, which you still see remnants
of now in the true krime of community. There is
some crossover between an act like this and some of
like the school shooter fandom the Columbiner stuff, especially considering
the resurgence of Columbiner culture that we're currently seeing right
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now in the United States. But yeah, the general sense
of like widespread dread and the interconnectedness of this is
more unique.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I keep thinking about that Hunter S. Thompson quote about
like those poor bastard troop but when after nine to eleven,
don't know, the party's over. The party is over, and yeah,
welcome to hop.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So the suspect's dad said to reporters that Guy had
a childhood obsession with pyrotechnics. He set the family home
on fire and burned it down he was nine. He
made rockets, stink bombs, smoke bombs as a child. Videos
on YouTube, likely posted by Guy show m eighties exploding
in the desert, a hydrogen balloon being set, a blaze,
and a bucket of radioactive uranium?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Or is that what did he obtain that like out
there in Wonder Valley?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
This is still being investigated. His voice in these videos
matches the thirty minute audio manifesto explaining his motivation for
the attack, same quote. Basically, it just comes down to
I'm angry that I exist and that you know, nobody
got my consent to bring me here. Basically, I'm anti life,
and IVF is kind of like the epitome of pro
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life ideology.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Unquote.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
This is out there.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Is there any information on the I'm just because a
lot of explosives and other munitions have gone missing. Twenty
nine Palms people, My familiar is a town near ish
to Palm Springs, near it to Joshua Tree. There's a
pretty big military base. Yeah. Yeah, it's the big marine
corde like detO warfare training.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Explosives have gone missing there before. The basic claims that
they've been recovered. It is unclear what explosives he used
at this point. It was a pretty large explosion. Investing
are low key impressed at this explosion.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Like it was.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
It was what they said in that official statement, if
you read between the lines, they're like surprised at how
effective this car bomb was.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Again, this was a guy who spent a lot of
time online, a lot of time on Reddit. It seems
like he got obsessed with this. He had a fascination
with explosives at a young age. So that obsession combined
with this anti natalist obsession and this urge for self
destruction manifested in this action.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
This this week, Reddit banned anti natalist, anti life subreddit
allegedly frequented by bomber.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I dude, just want to say that this is I
think the only IVS clinic in the Coachella Valley, So
like for people who are accessing those services, that's a
serious disruption, right M Yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So I, me and Robert are going to talk more
about kind of this trend that we're seeing in in
extremism or or in extremist acts. I still don't like
the nihilist buy an extremism term, but we are seeing
elements of that getting more and more common, especially to
my with the true crime community, which essentially tries to
encourage young girls to commit school shootings.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, I guess to finish up, I just want to
say that, like, I know, it's a really hard time
right now. A lot of people are trying to find
ways to cope or feeling like they can't cope or
feel like they're not enough.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I guess hopelessness. This sort of like existential nihilism.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, And I've combined that with a lot of people
who work for the government fundly finding themselves out of work,
and you know the economic pressure that puts on people.
And I understand that people are pretty in a tough
spot right now who want to save very briefly obviously,
like the world is more beautiful with you in it,
and if you're experiencing suicidal ideation or mental health struggles.
(14:41):
A couple of resources I want to suggest, the Fireweed
Collective and the Jane Adams Collective. Adams spelled with two d's,
there a double Dams. We will have links to both
of them in the showdoes you can also put them
into Duck dut go And they were the first responses
that came up for me. If you need those resources,
reach out to them as people.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, it's it's good to see the sunrise, and it's
better to see the sunrise with everyone you love in it.
And yeah, that's that's a thing that you can make
sure you do every day.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
M hmm.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
All right, thank you, James, thanking me a. We're gonna
go and break and then come back to discuss immigration.
All right, we're back, James. I see the amount of
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text you have. This is a very long section jail
of text.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I assume this is all good news. So let's uh,
let's hear it all right, Garyson, I'm so glad that
you have seen my wall of text because I have
been looking at court documents for days. So much fun
on pacer.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You have been pacer posting in the group chats.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, I have been court listener as well. Okay,
so this is one of the more insane things I've
seen on pacer. In a minute. I'm talking about the
case here of mister NM, who was identified at some
point and we'll get an m NM. Yeah, it's not
uncommon for migranty in these kind of high profile cases
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to be anonymised where they can right just for their safety.
So NM received a final removal order in Nebraska in
twenty twenty three, and on the seventh of May, DHS
attempted to apport an m to Libya. You'll remember that
we covered that week's ed right, they did not manage
to do that. And in this court case, we've seen
from another detainee that one of these detainees was given
(16:38):
a document to sign and told that he would quote
be a free man in Libya after signing. Obviously unclear
how one can be a free man when one is
just dumped into a country when one does speak the language,
has no contact, there is a war.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Doesn't make sense in any way.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
This man is not from Libya, that's correct. None of
these people are Libyan.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
And again, whenever seven someone says the the word Libya,
you have to figure out which Libyan government you are
talking about, because there are multiple of them, because there
is a fucking civil war going on there right now.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
So yeah, and whenever someone talks about people being free
in Libya, we should bear in mind that migrants are
literally sold into slavery in Libya by both governments. Yes,
M's English is limited. His main language is Karene, which
of course is a language that people speak in Cartule,
the Karen home land, which is part of Miaanmar. On
the nineteenth of this month, that's two days ago, I
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sent a notification to his lawyer saying that they'd read
him a notice of removal in English that they were
removing him to South Africa. Ten minutes later, they attempted
to recall this message, and then later that same day
they notified his lawyer that they'd once again read notice
of removal to him in English, that he was being
removed to South Sudan. South Sudan the world's youngest country,
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if we're not familiar, a country that is in which
conflict is escalating as we speak, governments carrying out a
barrel bombing campaign this very week. His councils set up
a video meeting at nine am on the twentieth, but
just before that meeting, his council found out that he
had already been removed. Mister M had refused to sign
the order of removal to South Sudan and we're seeing
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right now in a court case. It's a class action.
Mister NM is one of the members of the class.
Right that there was a preliminary injunction against these people
being removed because they are the same people who the
Trump administration previously tried to remove to Libya, and at
this point they tried to remove them to South Sudane.
Before they are sent to these places, they're supposed to
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have a reasonable fear screening right. That is where someone
can articulate if they have a reasonable fear of being
removed to that country, right like if they will be
persecuted there, they're likely to face torture or violence, or
or be picked on because of who they are. Right
then they're supposed to have a fifteen day opportunity to
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submit a motion to reopen if the Department of Home
out Security finds that they don't have reasonable fear.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
So they're supposed to be this process where they can
say I have a reasonable fear of going there, if
I go there or be persecuted, and if the AHPs says,
nobody don't believe you, then they have fifteen days to
submit Okay, more evidence.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Right are they being allowed to do that or no.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
No, got it. That is what this case hinges on. Right.
So they were informed, possibly hours before they were moved
to South Sudan that they were being moved to South Sudan.
Then they were taken to a secure facility where they
couldn't contact their lawyers. And in at least the case
of mister NM, he had scheduled an appointment with his
lawyer and was deported before he could do so. Right,
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And this is seven a few times before as well. Yeah,
that's correct in the past few months, that's right. Yeah,
and specifically, there was a primary injunction against this right. So,
quoting from Judge Murphy, who is judging the Massachusetts District
Court where this is being held, the government's actions are
unquestionably violative of this court order. The government said they
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have complied with my order because they didn't hear anyone
yelling at their jailers that they are afraid to go
to South Sudan. This is clearly insufficient. Yeah, So what
he's articulating here is like this chance to articulate reasonable fear. Right.
I do want to point out that in Biden's asylum
ban that he passed in twenty twenty four, they move
from a question of are you afraid to go back
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to your home country to what's called a shout test,
where the migrant has to articulate that reasonable fear unprompted
right to have a chance at asylum in the United States.
So this again, like all these immigration things, I'm not
saying things what the same under Biden by I'm saying
that there is a pathway to how we got here,
and it goes through Biden's executive boarder.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
And like Miller is very willing to use anything in
his toolbox.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, and anything that look for decades,
castro or liberalism has built a series of tools which
now lie in the hands of a very illiberal government
right and they are being used against people for whom
those who supported castor or liberalism may have some sympathy.
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That is how we got here. That's a good way
of putting in. So the situation we are at right
now is that these people were flown seemingly in a
Gulf Stream jet. Gillian Brockell, who's a formula Washington Post
reporter who were going to have on the show next week,
was able to identify this jet based on where it
took off and its call sign it's stopped in Shannon
(21:25):
in Ireland. Notably, Shannon is an Irish civilian airport, right,
it's not a US air Force base. This does raise
some questions within Ireland, within Irish politics about Irish neutrality here. Right.
The jet then flew onto Djibouti, which it is believed
is where the migrants are. Right now, in court the
(21:45):
discussion probably half an hour before we recorded this, DHS
is claiming that they can do their credible fear interviews
there on the tarmac in this plane, which people are
saying is in Jobouty. Right, there's some suspicion that it's
in Jobouty. DHS is claiming that the location of the
plane is classified, but this widespread belief that this plane
(22:06):
is currently in Djibouoty, including as I say, Julian was
first and hy T published something that didn't credit her.
Should have credited her. So to do the credible fear
into you, right, they have to have a chance to
research what will happen to them in South Shoda, They
have to have access to a lawyer. Most of these
people like mister NM will also have to have a translator.
Right then, they will also have to have privacy, right,
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their credible fear may be something they don't want to
share with everyone else on that plane because that could
also put them in danger.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yes, also, just like that's a baffling place to suggest
somebody have that intimate or private of a conversation. It's
just such a violation of their human rights.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah, many human rights being violated here. So yeah, I mean,
the US has a big base in Jibouti, right, so
I imagine that's why they're there. Remember that they have
that fifteen day period, So if DHS finds that they
don't have credible fear, then they will have fifteen days
right to bring another to reopen that. Where will they
(23:06):
be housed? Somewhere in fucking drabooty presumably if that's where
they are, right. There are many many unanswered questions at
this point. Now, last night we learned that one of
the Burmese people, it appears that there are two Burmese people.
We know this because the Department of Homeland Security today
started tweeting mugshots of these people Jesus yeah and uh wow, yeah,
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claiming that they were convicted of various crimes. Among them
were two Burmese men and m appears to be Nio
Miant and the other appears to be Cure Mea. Both
of these men have been accused of various a big convicted,
I believe of sex crimes, and that's where they got
their removal orders. Other people among the dozen or so
people on the plane have been convicted of some of
them like one of them is South Sudanese and he
(23:53):
was convicted of removing the serial number from a firearm
and of armed robbery, others, murder, and and various other
fairly serious crimes. Right, none of that means that you
should just get dumped in South Sudan, right that it's
not a punishment in US law. It is not a
morally or legally acceptable thing to do.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
It's just truly baffling, honestly. Like that, that's what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
That's the move.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah, the move is to send themselves Sudan where It's
worth noting that South Sudan's government have said it will
probably send these people back to their home countries. Sure,
evidently the reason they are not being sent there is
because they have articulated a fear of going there, or
they have protection. It's called withholding of removal right, so
they can't be removed to that country and basically that
(24:40):
is where at evidents they manage to remove. Apparently somebody
to Burma today or late last night. I'm still waiting
on my sources in me and mart to confirm that
they the Burmese hunter is as leaky as a sieve. Right,
If those people are land that we will know about
it pretty soon. We have pretty good sources in Burma,
(25:00):
so if that happens, we will know. They also discussed
another party, right, someone who goes by OCG, a gay
guatemrlon man who asserted credible fear of being returned while
in immigration court. He was deported to Mexico, where he
also asserted credible fear. Mexico gave him a choice of
remaining Mexico going to Guatemala. He went to Guatemala where
(25:21):
he is now in hiding. The DHS claimed he said
he didn't have credible fear, and then later reverse that
and said they didn't ask. So the judge is now
asking how on earth they got this conclusion he didn't
have credible fear and deported him. He's saying he might
potentially put DHS officers on the stand to explain how
this happened. In other immigration news, Ice just today this
(25:44):
is Wednesday has apparently been dismissing court cases against people
who turn up for hearing an immigration court and then
immediately arresting them. What the fuck right there.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
In Jesus fucking Cross.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah, Like, it's a little unclear what the movie here,
but clearly they're trying to remove them in a more
expeditious way. Right, they have a court case, try to
remove this person, they're saying.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Because the court case has, like you know, a certain
amount of time needs to process. If they dismiss the
court case, then.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
They may have a right to appeal and yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
If it's dismissed, then they can expedite other like non
judicial removal.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yeah, well they can do what they're doing here. Yeah,
they can try and get and run people out before
they have a chance to get to their lawyer. Right.
Like that seems to be the underlying team of all
of these things, which is that your due process and
your right under the law are two time consuming, So
we're going to try and make an run around your
rights by sending you to somewhere fucking horrific. That is
(26:39):
the underlying theme here. Unfortunately, this removal will likely now
affect a lot more people because a Trump administration has
removed the twenty twenty three Temporary Protected Status of Thenezualan People.
We talked about TPSS in my Darian series. The TPS
provides protection from deportation to people who are already present
(26:59):
in the US when it passes. Generally, it's if a
country has experienced war or other like instability that makes
it dangerous. You have to apply for the TPS. They
don't provide a pathway to permanence or citizenship, but they
do give people work authorization and they often have to
be frequently renewed by the Executive branch. You have to
be in the US the day it's issued, so you
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can't enter after. Despite what you might have seen on
Twitter or whatever, that's not the case right. It also
doesn't count as a legal entry, so you can't use
the bridge to a green card. Trump stripped this protection
from about three hundred and fifty thousand Venezuelans under the
twenty twenty three TPS. This does not impact There are
two different tps's for Venezuelan people. They're in a bit
(27:42):
of a unique situation. The quarter of a million people
covered by the twenty twenty one TPS are still for
now covered by that, but it doesn't exactly bode well
for them. Right. This appears to be the largest blanket
removal of legal status from a group of people in
the United States history. And it's a little clear what
this means for the three hundred and fifty thousand Venezuelan
(28:04):
people currently residing in the US under TPS. Right, but
it's another case of like, by their compliance, isolutorly probably
knows where they live. So these people, it's possible that
we will see deportations of these people back to Venezuela. Again,
the situation in Venezuela is dire.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
It's a place where just so many people too.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Yeah, And like I think again, if people haven't listened
to my Darien series, I would like that because I've
got a lot of myself into it. But I have
a great affection for Venezuelan migrants. I've spent a lot
of time in Caracas when I was younger, and I've
spent a lot of time with them in the Darien
Gap and then when they arrive in the United States,
and yeah, it's really fucking heartbreaking to hear. Like, when
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you think of three hundred and fifty thousand people, understand
that a good number of those people will be little children, right,
people who never had any agency, People whose parents risked
their lives to give their kids a chance at a
better future, and that's been ripped away from them right
now with the consent of the Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Like, if you're removing three hundred, like dred thousand people
from our country, that's just straight up and ethnic cleansing, Like,
that's what that is.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
It's about a third of the Venezuelans living in the
United States right now, right, Like, it's it's way more
than decimating. Yeah, obviously we will see what legal recourses
people have. We'll see how this goes down. But obviously
very concerning for these people whose country is falling apart
(29:32):
and being returned there will be terrible for them, right, Like,
not only will they likely have none of their savings,
all of the resources they poured into getting here, but
they're also likely to face political persecution. So yeah, that's
all the exciting and uplifting news I have from the
immigration side of things. He everyone, it's James with a
(29:52):
pickup today Me and man Now is reporting that the
United States has deported twenty people since April. To Me
and Maar. Most of those people, seven of them have
been released. The remainder of those people are being held
by Burmese military intelligence in a prison that is notorious
(30:16):
for torture, sexual violence, and the general inhumane treatment of
incarcerated people that we've become very familiar with in our
writing about Me andma We don't know who these people
are yet. Obviously, there's a story that I'm looking into
and I will continue to get back to you on.
But it seems like somehow we have not been aware
(30:37):
of this until now, but dozens of people have been deported.
They're saying that twenty seven people in total are expected
to be deported, and twenty already have. So obviously this
is very disturbing news and something we'll keep reporting on. Well.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Thanksgiving us updated on that, James. We're going to go
on break in return to talk about the FBI, Palestine,
and some exciting new reality TV. I'm sad, okay, we
(31:15):
are back. First, I want to do some quick updates
about the FBI. A cash Battel has announced that he's
shutting down the FBI's DC headquarters in dj Edgar Hoover Building.
Around fifteen hundred agents will be transferred around the country.
And in this same interview, Cash Hotel and Dan Bongino
went on TV to say that Jeffrey Epstein died by
(31:38):
suicide and of course Mega yax very normal to this.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
What do they have on this deepstick's gone to them?
Speaker 7 (31:47):
You said, Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
People don't believe it.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion.
But as someone who has worked as a public defender,
as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's
been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing,
you know a suicide when you see one, and that's.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
What that was.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
They killed himself.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Again, you want me to get I've seen the whole file.
He killed himself.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I'm upset because I forgot that Dan Bongina was a person.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yea, let me too, Oh, I have not forgotten. This
is my beat. I so yes, of course Mega is
acting very normal about the affirmation that Epstein killed himself.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Okay, now I'm losing confidence in them both. This is
not good at all cool.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Let me read one, Let me read one. Let's do this.
This is fun.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Sad to see Cash and Bengino have been compromised.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Yeah, your turn, Dan, blink twice if they threatened you
or your family.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Now I got to do what right?
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Yeah, deep state traitor d Ei.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Higher Oh classic class.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
There it is, there, it is. I knew it was
coming as much as he likes to wear his CU
hunting gear.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
But no, there's there's thousands, thousands of comments from these
like like mega Q people who feel feel the trade,
that people like Patel and Bengino have spent years doing
content creation talking about this grand Epstein conspiracy that now
now they claim isn't real or they are in fact
covering up the real conspiracy that that Donald Donald Trump's
(33:32):
friends with Jeffrey Epstein's. So yeah. There's also an interview
clip where where Trump I was asked if he was
going to release the whole file, and at first he
said yes, and then he caught himself and was like, well,
actually no, we'll probably be we'll probably be careful about
releasing the whole file because it could compromise people, Like
what kind what kind of people you're talking about their
(33:53):
don anyway, we have a chance.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Of swinging the Epstein demographic. That is our time division
to our enemies.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
The next thing of the doc is I found interesting Gerson.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Oh, this is just one piece of uplifting news. Yeah,
this is I'm just gonna read the headline from VA
because I simply can't improve on it.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
No, it's perfect.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Suspected serial killer shouts out Trump in last words before
he's put to death, Keep making America great. Glenn Rogers
once told police he had killed about seventy people. He
was executed by lethal injection Thursday in Florida.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
That's the way that I knew it would be Florida.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Literally seconds before he got the lethal injection, he said,
President Trump, keep making America great. I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Last words.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
So that kind of shows you the current, like wellspring
of Trump's support right now. That's really hitting his prime
demographic of suspected serial killers.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I just have to.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Say that had big Florida energy.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
For real.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, I think it's time to hear the lucid lullaby
of tariff talk.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
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Speaker 5 (35:16):
You know, all right, before everything gets so so like
I do the most depressing segment I've maybe ever done on.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Here, tariffs that can't be true.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
No, not the teriff, but the next one I genuinely
think is the most impressing secon I've ever done on here,
but the tariffs. So our negotiations with China that we're
supposed to like solve all of the tariff problems are
already breaking down. Both sides are like sniping at each other.
This is not gonna work. It structurally cannot work. That
the US's demands the negotiating table, which is again the
political we're economic rationale behind this, is that the US
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should not have a trade deficit with China that can't
be solved, and it's already breaking down. The talks are
going almost certainly going to fail, and we're going to
be right back to where we were. It's also worth
talking about a bunch of companies have been doing ice raises,
and I think it's worth going back a little bit
to some of the some of the economic work we've
(36:06):
done in this show with the people as Strange Manners
and talking about in our previous episodes about inflation about
how price works, because this is really really badly understood
by just about everyone, which is that the way that
people think about tend to think about price is as like, okay,
it's supply and demand. There's two axes they meet in
a graph. That's not how price is set. Price is
set by like specific people in supply chains, right, Like,
(36:30):
they're constrained by certain factors. And one of the biggest things,
and one of the things, the biggest things they're constrained about,
is that if you raise prices, people get pissed at you.
But the way that they actually do pricing strategies is
cost plus markup. Right, There's a cost of the physical
good and then they do a markup and the markup
is a profit margin. And the thing about tariffs, right,
is that the way the tariffs affect supply chains is
(36:50):
that each part of the supply chain now that's moving,
that's importing stuff, right, each part of those things now
has an additional cost that they have to have to
put into their costless markup.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
You.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Now, Trump wants all these companies to just fucking eat
shit and eat eat the price of the tariffs. He's
been tweeting about this or posting a I think on
truth social and possibly also on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Truth Again, all of his truths have been re reposted
on exos.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Now, yeah, retruthed.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
But the thing is right and in theory, right, like
Walmart could just like take this right in theory, like
like you know, like they're really some of the really
really big companies could in theory do this. They won't,
like they a lot of any other. Thing is like
these companies have an incentive not to raise prices because
it pisses consumers off. And also because Trump is just
direct like directly threatening sanctions on companies that raise prices.
(37:39):
Mattel for the people who make Barbie, said that they
were going to raise prices on toys and Trump is
now threatening them with one hundred per sanctions or one
hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Tariffs only three dolls.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Yeah, so that's you know, the government limited dolls, completely
hindish situation. We've gotten here. We're gonna have doll quotas. Uh.
But you know again again it's it's worth men right
that like in theory, for a little bit of time,
some of these companies can sort of eat this or
they can fuck with their supply chains and the company
has been publicly talking about this. The problem is the suppliers,
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because the distributors tend to have pretty high margins, right,
like your Walgreens, like Amazon a sub except like their
margins are okay, and like Amazon makes most of us
money from government computing contracts in any ways, so it's
not as catastrophic. But the suppliers operate on very low margins.
The shipping companies, everything else along the supply chain operates
on really really low margins, right, And those people have
(38:33):
to raise their price because otherwise they are just going
to die. And when they raise their price right in,
that's an increase to the next company's costless markup, which
increases the next company's costless market, which decreases the next companies.
And we're starting to see this ripple to the supply chain.
Things are disappearing from grocery stores. They're going to continue
disappearing from grocery stores. And as as this goes on,
and as presumably the terrifts from China come back into
(38:54):
effect when these negotiations break down and the next round
of tariffs goes into effect, and deliberate day tariff's come
off their ninety day pause and go to effect. This
is all gonna get worse. This this has been tariff
talk lovely. Uh, this unfortunately was the fun part of
the episode.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, it's gonna get worse Free two one.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Okay, So when I said this might be the bleakest
segment I've ever done on this show, we need to
do an update on Palestine because things have gotten ye. Like,
when when I was kind of opening this episode, I
thought it was gonna mostly be about Trump's plan to
like deport the entire popular, like deport most of the
population of Palestine to Libya. That's not even the immediate crisis.
(39:37):
The immediate crisis is that, and that's this. That's not
even sure what I'm saying the immediate crisis. Last week,
I thought the crisis was going to be the eleven
week blucket of Gaza and the fact that everyone is
about to starve. Yeah, and so the actual specific thing
that we're getting to right now is Israel. It is
attempting to evacuate. That's their wording. What they're actually doing
is ethnically cleansing basically the entire population of Conunis by
(40:01):
just forcing everyone out of the city. Right. The United
Nations has said that Nearly one hundred thousand Palestinians have
been displaced in Gaza in the last four days as
Israel has been expanding its its ground invasion to the
Gaza strip. This has been combined with the eleven week
long blockade of Gaza. I think by the end of
this week, the week twelve, this has set off an
(40:21):
enormous risk of famine. I'm just going to read this
from Al Jazeira. Quote some seventy days after the Israelian
military halted the entry of food, water, medicine and all
other life saving supplies into Gaza, the report said. This
is a report from a UN a UN backset of
food security group of analysts. The report said, quote goods
indispensable for people's survivals survival are either depleted or expected
(40:44):
to run out in the coming weeks. Quote. The entire
population is facing high levels of acute food insecurity, with
half a million people one in five facing starvation.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
It said.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
Approximately ninety three percent of Gaza's population is experience and
seeing acute food shortages.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
It added.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
The report also said that like one in five people
could starve between now and November. People have already started
starving to death. Israel has been blocking aid from getting through.
They symbolically allowed a small number of trucks in, but
a groups on the ground, and I want to emphasize
that this reporting is coming directly from the Times of Israel.
If you want to understand how bad the situation is,
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the Times of Israel is reporting that A groups from
the ground say that none of the IEA's gotten through
and none of it has been distributed. This is I
don't know how to convey how bad it is indescribable.
Numbers of people are on the verge of starving to
death in the Israelis are simply not letting any food arrive.
They keep talking about how they're gonna let food arrive
(41:46):
because this is actually this is the first thing I've
seen them do that's actually seriously gotten. I mean not
even seriously, but it's like gotten. A lot of their
Western allies pissed at them because they're just very obviously
trying to exterminate entire population by starving them the death.
And this has caused the UK, Canada and France to
issue a joint statement coming out against the Israeli policy
(42:09):
and telling them to fucking stop and let food through.
So these people don't starve. The UK is talking about
suspending free trade agreements with Israel. They're talking about like
sanctions at West Bank settlers. The whole group has threatened
that they're going to take more actions unless the Israelis
let food in. Now the Israelis, because of the Israelis
(42:29):
shot at a bunch of diplomats who were visiting a
refugee camp in Janine.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
This was like a few days ago.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yeah, it's like a few days ago. Yeah, yeah, and
so's that's not been like making anyone less angry at them.
It's genuinely remarkable to we've reached a place where like
the UK, Canada, in France, who are all major weapons
suppliers to Israel, are like talking about sanctions, like even
targeted actions, like yeah, you know, and like the UN's
(42:55):
like Human Rights Commission was like, well, this is bullshit.
You can't just targeted sanctions. It is the entire government
doing this. But like, you know, the fact that they're
doing something is an indicator of just how apocalyptically bad
the situation is right now. Yeah, I want to read
this quote from the Guardian from just perennial most fascist
guy in the Israeli government.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
What's he's saying something?
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Yeah, who's their fucking finance minister who said, quote, now
we conquer, cleanse, and stay until Hamas is destroyed. He
told a news conference along the way, what remains of
the strip is also being wiped out, cleans conquered, the
normal things. To say, the extent to which they are
simply doing a genocide here has reached a point where
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even a bunch of Israel's closest allies are going, what
the fuck? I don't know. I really hope that people
are able to force their governments to actually fucking do
something about this, because if they don't, it's going to
continue to get really bad. Yeah, And I mean I
guess right now that's mostly like if you're in like
(43:59):
the U, Canada or France and you think you can
apply more pressure on your government, like, go for it.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Do do it?
Speaker 8 (44:06):
Do that.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
Like, I don't know, I don't know to what extpt
pressure can even be mounted on the Trump administration, but
it's yeah, I think that's pretty much a dead end,
right Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
But like, but seeing these countries align outside of any
US influence to I potentially recognize the Palestinian state. According
to Lamonde, right, like is significant And yeah, people in
those countries should absolutely like stay in the streets.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
Yeah, because like like and this is this is the
thing here, right, Like these countries the stuff that there's
right evening stuff are threatening to do is not enough
to really make a difference here. But like, if they're
willing to do this, they can be pushed further.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Yeah. So yeah, you have to get your foot in
the door.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, and Carney has also seemed susceptible to this, Yeah,
as there has been a block on arm steels to
Israel for the past few months in Canada.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, we're going to close with another story of like
anti humanity, but just a slightly different flavor. And I
know this this does the show does often just end
up feeling like a bad news round up, and that
is because there's a lot of bad news.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
I have good news for the end. Actually that's a
good thing.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
We'll have some good news, yeah, as a treat And
part of the good news here is that this probably
will not end up happening, but it's still useful insight
into the minds of these ghouls. And I've long advocated
that reality TV is basically inherently satanic. I think it's
a spiritual darkness.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
This is offensive to Satanists.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
It is a spiritual darkness that has played the United
States for far too long. I think it's ushered in
a degree of evil that is nearly unfathomable. And the
current administration is essentially a reality TV administration on a
very clear and obvious level.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yes, but did I enjoy watching the Secret Lives of
Mormon Wives?
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I did. I think watching it stuff is actually a
personal moral failure. I think you're channeling darkness into your.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Soul and loving it.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Last week, cutiple outlets reported that the Department of Homeland
Security was considering participating in a reality TV show where
immigrants compete against each other to gain US citizenship. The
proposed series would be called The American. This nightmare has
been dreamed up by Duck Dynasty producer Rob Warsof, and
(46:20):
apparently he's been trying to make this since Obama's second term,
but only now has made progress on getting the necessary
backing from the DHS. After sending Trump's DHS a thirty
five page pitch, Warsof wants it to be quote unquote
the biggest loser for immigration, which, again reality TV is
(46:41):
inherently evil.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
That's fucking insane.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
It should not be tolerated on any aspect of human society. No,
The Wall Street Journal header reads, quote, this isn't the
Hunger Games for immigrants, says the producer behind the pitch.
If you have to say this isn't the Hunger Games
for immigrants, that means this is the Hunger Games for immigrants.
(47:06):
Getting a lot of questions about my this isn't the
Hunger Games for Immigrants shirt already answered by the shirt
to quote the Wall Street Journal quote. DHS spokeswoman Tricia
McLoughlin said that she had spoken to the producer of
the proposed television reality show and that consideration of the
idea was ongoing. It is quote in the very beginning
(47:28):
stages of that vetting process, she said, adding that quote
each proposal undergoes a thorough vetting process prior to denial
or approval unquote. McLoughlin was also quoted in The Daily
Mail as saying she thought the television show was quote
unquote a good idea.
Speaker 5 (47:45):
Jesus, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
The pitch details that the immigrant contestants would board a
train called the American and ride across the country to
meet quote unquote interesting Americans and learn about the local
history and culture, while competing in regions Pacific quote unquote
heritage challenges to prove they are the most American. Such
cultural contests include balancing on logs in Wisconsin, building a
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rocket at the Florida NASA headquarters, assembling a model t
Ford in Detroit, and collecting gold in a San Francisco
mine shaft. Prizes would be quote unquote iconically American, like
one million American Airlines points, a ten thousand dollars Starbucks
gift card, or a lifetime supply of seventy six gas.
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Immigrants would be split into teams that compete head to
head across one hour episodes, ending with an elimination challenge,
followed by a town hall and a final vote to
quote the producer quote along the way, we will be
reminded what it means to be American through the eyes
of people who wanted most unquote.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
I feel like even this will will humanize migration to
the United States too much for them. They're like that
they will be afraid of that, like of these people
articulating the desire to be here and what it means
to them and I feel like that that doesn't end
well for the administration, that they this might.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Be too liberal for the Trump administration.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
It could be too lip. I'm not even joking.
Speaker 5 (49:15):
This is a concept just should be the death knell
for the idea of America. Like, oh, if America has
an experiment, we tried it. It failed.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
This is the most America thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 5 (49:25):
Like, it's over. Yeah, as an experiment, the American Project
was a fucking disaster, and we need to it needs
to stop because this is what it's done. No more,
no more American Project. The Hitch has pre vetted contestants.
First arriving at Ellis Island a board a boat called
the Citizenship, they are greeted by the show's host, quote,
(49:48):
a famous naturalized American who was also born in another country. Unquote,
the pitt recommends Sophia Verghera or Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Upon arriving. The host would gift to each of them
a personalized baseball.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Glove, America's pastime.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
There's no way Sophia Forgata or Ryan Reynolds would ever
fucking do a show like this.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
That's batshit.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
Yeah, I fucking hope.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
So to quote the producer's pitch. Quote will join in
the laughter, tears, frustration, and joy hearing their backstories as
we are reminded how amazing it is to be American
through the eyes of twelve wonderful people who want nothing
more than to have what we have.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Unquote.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
This is this is one of the most evil things
I've ever I've ever heard of. Yeah, the live finale
would have the winner getting sworn in on the steps
of the US Capitol by a quote top American politician
or judge with F sixteen's flying overhead. Quote. There won't
be a dry fuck me sorry, there won't be a
(50:57):
dry eye in the house unquote.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
There have actually been like high spectacle single individual awards
of citizenship before I'm thinking for example, Hermann Bodger was
a He's often known as like the one man Army
of boona John Botcher. He was, I believe, living as
an undocumented person in the United States when he joined
(51:21):
the Abraham Lincoln Brigade volunteered to fight in the Spanish
Civil War, where he was an officer. He then joined
the United States military and fort again in World War Two.
During the Battle of Boone, he personally led a charge
against several Japanese pillboxes, which he eliminated with grenades. He
then had his ear drum perforated and I believe he
(51:44):
was shot in the arm. He was awarded, I think
he wasn't ordered the Medal of Honor. He was recognized
for his bravery. Congress pass and act to make him
a citizen, and he declined to attend a ceremony because
he wanted to get back to the front lines. That rules. Yeah,
bit of a legend.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, a little bit cooler than the live Grand finale
of the American The pitch clarified that the losers would
not be immediately deported and that the contestants would have
a leg up in applying for citizenship the more traditional
way based on being pre vetted for this show. So
(52:21):
it's good that it's good that he had to clarify
that they would not be immediately deported upon getting eliminated.
That's a good sign.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
Yeah, yeah, another thing that you should always have to
carifind a TV page.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
At a Tuesday congressional hearing, Christinom denied having knowledge of
the reality TV show despite reporting to the contrary, while
also defining hebeas corpus in this hearing as a quote
constitutional right that the president has to be able to
remove people from this country unquote.
Speaker 4 (52:51):
So there you go. Yeah, that's not what that means.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Christinome is a disaster that it's kind of the opposite
of what Abey's corpus is. And there is some central
reporting showing that DHS staff are looking at this pitch.
It might not go through now based on all this backlash,
but they were looking through the pitch, including possibly Corey Lewandowski.
(53:15):
But yeah, that is the reality TV news. James, Do
you have anything anything to end on here is James? Please?
Speaker 4 (53:24):
Yeah, I know something, something a little bit nice. So
for those of you who like me, enjoy a strawberry ice.
Agents arrived at the West Coast Berry Farms facility in Oxnard, California,
earlier this month, where they were met by a gatekeeper
who demanded a warrant and refused to let them enter
the facility without one, and eventually managed to turn them away.
(53:48):
So this is a rare dub I guess clearly, as
we enter the time of year when things need to
be picked in the fields, this will be a place
where I sees the opportunity to conduct its enforcement operations,
and like it is genuinely positive to see that this company,
(54:09):
I guess, critical support to this company that obviously underpays
and takes advantage of migrant labor that they have provided them.
According to an anonymous source in sf Gate with know
your Rights training, and in this case, the gatekeeper was
able to not let the ICE agents enter and eventually
they left.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Like ICE isn't impervious. Like all week, ICE has been
releasing statements complaining about being compared to to the to
the Gestapo.
Speaker 4 (54:36):
Well once again, right, like another thing that you shouldn't
have to be releasing statements about.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
I am not the Gestapo. Shirt has people asking a
lot of questions. Yeah, and they're also publishing false stats
about ICE officers being assaulted in the line of duty.
So like obviously they're facing some kind of like fear
even among their own agents. That's why they're all like
covered up wherever they go. They're trying to prosecute people
for posting information and on ICE agents in your area.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
Yeah, yeah, but like I say, they're not impervious. There
is a difference between a judicial warrant and a warrant
that ICE has essentially made itself, right, the latter not
being signed by a judge. And it appears that the
gatekeeper was aware of that. We still have courts, You still,
in theory have rights, and you know, well it depends,
but yes, yeah, yeah, theoretically that was a pivotal word.
(55:24):
But yeah, shout out to the gatekeepers at the Oxnard
Strawberry Plant.
Speaker 5 (55:30):
And they could be stopped by a door keeper. Like,
they can be resisted, they can be stopped from doing things.
Speaker 4 (55:36):
Yeah, and like it is genuinely important that this person
understood the difference between a judicial warrant and these documents
that ICE might produce. And it does illustrate the value
of being educated and educating people in your communities about
these things if they might be at risk for this.
All right, we reported the news.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
Why howdy did we?
Speaker 7 (55:56):
We reported the news.
Speaker 8 (56:05):
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