April 29, 2025 • 49 mins
The girls discuss their post-draft thoughts, how the WR2 position continues to be worrisome, and what veteran players need to prove more as OTAs are right around the corner.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The following is a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line,
trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles,
and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.
Now your host, Nicole Hutchison.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Siche Welcome to Girls Talk Boys Talk, brought to you
byen vis Line. Here with Christy Scales, Aishan Morrison, I'm
your host for the day, Jess Navarrees. Nicole has taking
a little well to served day off. We love her.
We miss our same thing with Bree. She's working some
pretty cool events as well, so we'll get to hear
about that next week. But ladies, we did it. We
made it. We made it to the other side. Oh yes,
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it is post draft. The Cowboys have their rookie class.
There's so much to get into, but I just want
to go into your initial thoughts of how the Cowboys
ran picking these selections and overall.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
What you thought of their bored go ahead, solid, not
sexy right off the bat. There you go, that's it,
but it could be could become sexy if Asuaku and
then Revel if they live up to some of the
expectations and some of the what's being forecast of their roles.
I know Revel's coming off in injury there, but yeah,
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and then Jaden Blue with the running back, the first
of two running backs taken, could be like Pollard early
in his career, kind of out of the backfield catching
the ball but basically or hand off, you know, some
speed and being a home run hitter. So I know
that Cowboys nation overall, I'm not I know that every
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one of you watching it doesn't necessarily agree with this.
We all have our different opinions, but I think overall
Cowboys was a bit disappointed when they didn't get a
wide receiver or go with the running back earlier. But
if you believe in the mantra of sticking to your
board and best player available, then I don't see how
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you can complain about the way the Cowboys handle this draft.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yeah, I mean and their BPA and our BPA, Like
there's there's a humbling that comes with this and being
even being the time that I had the opportunity to
be like a media scout like.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
It is.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Their They're professionals for a reason. They do this every day.
And I think that's the biggest thing I took from
the draft, like you said, Christy, is that they just
took their board. They didn't try to reach, they didn't
try to do anything extra. As a matter of fact,
they got fantastic value on some of these guys when
you look within the numbers and where people had them ranked.
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I think they are also too from a lot of
the conversations and going through the roster, a lot of
team captains, a lot of leadership guys. That goes back
to the pre draft presser. Knowing the person, knowing the player,
wanted to understand their love for football and things like that.
This is also a lot of these gentlemen were not
just taken because of the capability. They were taken because
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of the temperament and trying to re establish, you know,
something new Shoddy get in his feel what he wants
to locker room to feel like. I think that's a
big played a big role in some of the guys
that we drafted as well.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Absolutely, And so let's go down our list of the
newest Dallas Cowboys. We have guard Tyler Booker. Obviously it's
turtle like, can we count that as love the Turtle.
Let's see. We have defensive end Donovan Ezraku, cornerback Savante Revel.
I'm sorry if I'm saying these wrong. I practiced like
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twenty times before we started recording. Running back Jaden Blue,
linebacker Shamar James, offensive tackle Johnny Cornelius, defensive tackle Jay Tuia,
running back Film Afa, and defensive tackle Tommy A. King
King Basote. We're gonna get it. Look, there's one, there's
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another one of our names. We have to practice.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
King make me and make me have to stand up.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
You already know I have puns ready.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I'm just thinking of my friends in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Cowboys haven't even started yet, or.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
The equipment staff just trying to you know, like checking
it eight times before they put it across the back
of the jersey.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I mean me trying to spell it out, just to
pronounce it right. Guys. Out of those names, and of
course we can get into the undrafted free agents you know,
at some later point. But out of the drafted rookies,
who do you feel like can contribute quickly?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
And why Booker just uh, I think it's going to
be plug and play, and uh, I'm interested in y'all's
opinion on this, because in past UH staffs, iterations of
just that have come through the rookies. You know, supposedly
they have to earn it right and there'll be a
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veteran in front of them, and then midway through camp
they'll overtake them. But I wonder if Booker's just going
to be put it right guard, you know, with the
first team from day one, or will they go ahead
and have Brack Kaufman out there until, you know, give
it a you know, some practices or with Booker what,
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how do you think they're going to handle it.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I just don't what's the point of that anymore? I mean,
earn it, having him earn it, I get, I get
the idea of it. But at the same time, this
is a first round pick. You expect immediate and you
expect immediate production or immediate impact. So it's like, I
don't know, I don't, I don't, I don't know. And
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then also too with with Brock Kaufman, I wonder how
he's feeling right now, with the work he's put in
and things like that, Like maybe that's a discussion they
have with him. But if they compete, fine, but I
think he'll end up being the starter at the end
of well.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
But you know, you'd say the same thing about Tyler Goyton.
And if a Doga had not gotten hurt in camp,
a dooga I think would have been the starter on
day one, and Gydon became the starter with a dooga
out and then when Adoga came back, Geiton couldn't hold
on to a spot.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
And that's based on ability, though I feel it is.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
But we were saying the same thing last year because
Giton was your number one pick.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Some people will I always had my questions.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
That's fair, but that's fair. Do you feel like this
guard competition is already kind of set in the coaching
staff's minds for who they want is the starter or
do you feel like it's one of those things Christy
and you go into training camp, you duke it out
and best man comes out your starter.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I think it's more than lip service. I think I
think that it's a real.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Thing because not physically duke it out.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
No, no, exactly, that's clear, that's true. No, I mean
you do have to it has to be more than
lip service. It there really does need to be the
competition because the NFL is a game of attrition, and guys,
they're all gonna end up, most of them are gonna
end up playing and having a chance to contribute at
some point, even if it's starting one or two or
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three games a kind of thing. So they need to
be ready and you also need to keep them engaged.
So yeah, I still think Booker is going to be
the starter from day one. But but you you still
need to have guys have a reason out there to
give one hundred percent every day.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
He's gonna have his uh, he's gonna have his times
and things like that. But again going back to my
original point, the temperament I think is going to be
a big driving force with this, especially with this offensive line.
I think they're trying to muddy things up a little bit.
I think they're trying to get a little nasty there.
As far as to answer your question, who do I
think that out of the class that can come in
and help you right away? It's very difficult. You already
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win Booker. I'm gonna say Jaden Blue okay out of
Texas running back, mostly because you have not had a
gentleman that has real second level breakaway speed for a
while and even the couple, even the last few years
of Tony Poller are dealing with his injury. Coming off
of his injury, we didn't see that explosiveness at the
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second level until maybe the end of the season. So
you have a guy that can really threaten the defense.
It's gonna make you pay if you take bad angles.
I am ecstatic about that, paired with Clayton Adams coming
in Tyler Booker kind of what they're trying to do
on this interior. Jaden Blue being added to this running
back room and being a real speed threat and a
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receiving threat and a receiving threat as well is something
that I'm really looking forward to in this offense. So
I'm gonna go with him. I'm gonna go with him.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah, and now as Roku as well.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah, I mean yeah, she made us pick one.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
But he's gonna get a lot of He's gonna get
a lot of opportunity.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Maybe that was is we wanted to Ezu Rako, get it, get.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
It, get it in jail as a rock goo.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Oh my god, we really need to practice that off
camera and we'll practice and then we'll come back together
on that. Well, I only pause this here because you know,
the Cowboys went firmly on their board and they weren't
winging it per se. On the other hand, here on
Girls Talk, Boys Talk, we're going to play a game
called winging it. And Aisha had this fantastic idea and
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she made me really want to go to wing Stop.
So we are going to base our favorite wing flavors
from wing Stop off of how we rate these picks.
And furthermore, maybe not who can be a plug and
play player, but who intrigues you the most and what
flavor you're giving them going into their rookie season. Aisha,
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who is winging it for you?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Who's winging it? Winging it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Out of West flavor, out of the draft class, out
of the draft flavor? Are we talking? And why?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Okay, I'm gonna go with Chavon Revel cornerback out of
East Carolina, number one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I know,
I got him, I got him. I'm gonna go, Yes,
I'm gonna I'm gonna give him casion. That's what I'm
gonna go with. I'm gonna go with the Cajun rub
because his game is already you see what he's able
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to do in the press He's very physical as a tackler.
He's not afraid to come up and tackle. He got
some feisty to him. East Carolina's been pushing out some talent, y'all.
I'm glad to see their program improving. But if obviously
he's dealing with the recovery from the injury, if he
comes back and he is, you know, he can fill
in that you know, cornerback, two spot, or whatever the
case may be. You get that little kick mid season,
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you get that little kick at the end of it
or whenever he is he is ready to go, And
I think that that would really up this defense that
I do think is has done some things to improve
their front seven. I think that secondary still is kind
of like what's gonna happen there? If you can get
that little kick, that little Cajun kick at the end,
and it's a rub, it's not a sauce, so it's
not gonna be too blatant. It's just gonna be like, Okay, yeah,
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you know it's there, but you're gonna feel it a
little later.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
When you read the description at Wingstop, it says tossed
in original hot, dusted with bold and zesty Cajun seasonings.
So you're expecting bold and zesty.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
What we're hearing, Yeah, with a little kick, a little kissy,
I think he could really boost your your secondary But
your cornerback room needs a guy to come in with
some of the injuries and things that guys are coming
back from, You're gonna need a kick from one of
these corners.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
And going into training camp, Christine season.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I'm gonna go and Shade and Blue is atomic?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah atomic. Let's see it's the hottest we've got.
Find out for yourself.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
That's the discreption because he's he's gonna be your home
run hitter. I think yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
And do you feel like that sets the precedent high
for him to go into this training camp and you know,
even rookie camp and all that, to be have the mindset, hey,
I could be at the starting running back of this
team or do you feel like that's ready set?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Well, I think your mindset should always be that you're
going to be on the starter. But I think that
what's great about coming in with this kind of expectation
being a fifth round pick or you know, MafA in
the seventh round. They can be part of a rotation
just like we were talking about Aziraku being part of
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a rotation at defensive end and not having to handle
sixty snaps a game. You know, if you're coming in
and you're getting twenty twenty five snaps and you can
be fresh and you can have a role, especially in
an offense like this that sometimes you describe it as
a multiple offense, so you know where you want to
be good at lots of different things, but you can
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you can carve a niche, right, you can have your
own role. And so I think that for some players,
in terms of expectations and where you're taken in the draft,
it may I won't say easier, because you should still
have that kind of self imposed pressure that desire to
want to be a starter. But the reality is I
think that that the young guys will be given a.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Role real quick. I wanted to play in this game. Yes,
of course, you know I'm going Tyler Booker, and that's
because hear me out. He's the description of this wing flavor.
It's sweet with heat and then some Seriously, when I
read that description so far, the impression we got from
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Tyler Booker was a genuine, down to earth guy that
is just so easy to like, and I understand why
Schottenheimer had this draw to him as a player. Yeah,
sweet and easy, correct, But then with the heat. You
look at what he does on the field and it's
very Tyler Smith ESQ. Where you talk to him and
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so easy to talk to, very likable, very easy to follow,
But then you see what they do on the field
and it brings the heat. I just love the stat
and I found this from ESPN that he gave up
one sack in nine hundred and seventy pass blocking snaps
in his three in three college seasons. That's heat, if
you ask me. And also bolstering up the run. Oh
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my gosh, I'm so excited, guys. I'm so excited for
what he's going to do for this offensive line, just
absolutely making sure there's no excuse to not have a
solid run game because guess what started in the interiors,
it's making its way out and you just set up
whoever you're running back slash running backs will be for
the heat. So had to go with Tyler because again,
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just hearing him during that press conference, he's he's so
magnetic and I had to give him that credit.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Girl, learning the backstories of these guys. Yeah, and here
in for him from them the first time and Ricky Camp,
the media will get a chance to talk with the
guys on Friday and Saturday. So here at the Star
in Frisco. Ricky Camp takes place Friday and Saturday, so
that'll be a time where you can get some one
on one and not just in big groups. But I'm
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really excited to talk to Ravel because this is a
kid who was working over nights at an Amazon facility
right loading trucks and scanning packages and the like. And
he was a great athlete in high school, played cornerback
and wide receiver, a little bit of quarterback. But he
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didn't qualify for any Division I schools because he was
academically ineligible and had to play two years at junior college.
But East Carolina and gave him a chance to play,
and after a twenty twenty three breakout season he would
There were reports, and it was a great story by
Chris Lowe on ESPN dot com, that he was getting
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offers of upwards of six hundred thousand dollars in nil
money to go elsewhere and play at one of these
big programs, but he stayed true to East Carolina which
is the one that gave him a shot, and he
stayed there and then he ends up being drafted in
the third round despite torn acl and meniscus partial meniscus tear,
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and so he stayed true and it paid off for him,
and he's one of these high character guys that Ayisha
was talking about the importance and the focus on the
draft and that.
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The butterfly effect at its finest. We're going to take
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Speaker 3 (19:31):
Welcome back to Girls Talkboys Talk Prevent It presented Oh
my goodness bye. In visit line, we have Christy Aisha
Jess here with you in our second segment, Ladies. Christy
brought this up earlier. There was a train, imaginary train
that a lot of people were on, and it was
the train of the Cowboys drafting a wide receiver in
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the first round. But just at any point in that train,
it came and it and in fact it was an
imaginary train because it never existed. Didn't happen. I us
she was on that train. I think she was a
conductor of that train.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Hey, I was important to me to go skill and
at some point in time, and they did that with
the at least skin and jaydah On balloon.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
So there you go. But let's talk about this because
that wide receiver room, we've discussed it on here before.
Needing desperately needing another target for Jack Prescott other than
seed lamb correct and a solid wide receiver. Two. Does
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this worry you that, Yes, the Cowboys went out and
got some undrafted free agents. Tray Shawn Holden from Oregon
and then Josh Kelly from Texas Tech. However, on a
scale of one to ten, post draft, what is your
worry level for this wide receiver? Ring the alarm.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Girl, I had to say it and he had to
be mad.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Yeah, But at the same time, it goes back to
what we talked about at the very top. Sure, we
wanted skill position players, but we also want best athlete
available and sticking to your board. They said post draft
that there were only twelve players that they had with
first round grades. Apparently only one of them was a
wide receiver, and it's the one who who winn t
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Mac went off the board at eight to care Atlina.
So if they'd have taken Golden, then that would have
been or any of the other wide receivers that would
have been a reach. At twelve. They said that they
did have They were on the phone and there was
an opportunity to trade down, but the deal wasn't good enough.
So do you hold their feet to the fire and
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say you should have taken a wide receiver or do
you praise them for sticking to the board.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
So can you have both in this situation? Can you
have both?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Well, it didn't work out at number twelve without able
to trade down now where you can hold their feet
to the fire. Is also same thing with free agency.
But it's not done yet. I mean there's still trades
to be made out there, and I know there's people
that linka Marii Cooper and Keenan Allen. But Keenan Allen
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his base salary is eighteen point one million, you know,
So if you make a straight trade and don't renegotiate anything,
you've got CD at what thirty three million a year?
And then if you pay Keenan eighteen so it's you know, tough.
By the way, we should mention that you've got eight
million on the cap for a wide receiver who's been
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gone and that's Michael Gallup. So there are resources that
are being devoted to wide receiver even if the guys
aren't here. But yes, it's very disappointing that they that
you come out of the draft and you still have
a glaring hole.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
What about you level?
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Yeah, I'm very concerned about it. I do, like, I
do understand that a lot of Clayton Adams system is
going to be play action and stuff like that, and
it is up too seed to scheme guys open and
things like that. But for the last two three years,
one of the biggest consensus has been, you get in
the playoff, you either can't run the ball or they
just bracket CD and that's it. It's night night.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
You have not He.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Deserves for them to sign him to his contract. He
deserves someone to take pressure off of him. He deserves
someone on the other side of him, just like Jake
Ferguson deserves so a two that is going to be
consistent as well. We'll get through that later.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
But I just.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
It's too much. I think we've tried the I think
Jalen Tolbert is solid. I saw him not be able
to get out for press. I saw him not be
able to have a real breakaway speed. I mean, you
brought in Jonathan Mingo, which again I want to be
fair to him because I want to give him a
shot to show what he's capable of with elevated quarterback play.
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I just want to see how he connects. He came
in late last season, it probably took him some time
to get the playbook. Now he's on a whole new playbook.
Let's give him a chance. But other than that, like
Ryan Flinoy interesting. None of these gentlemen are proven. None
of these guys are proven, and I just think going
into this season without another proven wide receiver is crazy,
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crazy to me. And I know that we're going to
get into some of the udfas because Treshawn Holden from
Oregon is interesting. He's interesting for multitude of reasons. If
this wide receiver room shapes out, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Going through the depth chart right now, I'm looking at her,
I guess the roster. I shouldn't say the depth chart
the roster. Jalen Brooks, Paris Campbell, Ryan Flinoy, Calvin Harmon,
Ceedeelamb obviously, Jonathan Mingo, Jalen Cropper, Jalen Tolbert, Cavanti Turpin,
and let's see Seth Williams. Those are your current wide receivers.
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Out of the names that I mentioned, who do you
feel like is I don't want to say on notice,
but needs to have a near perfect camp to continue
getting opportunities, especially with talented undrafted free agents coming in
and potentially, you know, if there's some action in free
agency still at some point, I go.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Ahead, I would say Jayleen Tobert, Jonathan Mingo is gonna
give some grace because again he was they gave up
a fourth for him, they would have and got him
Jayleen Tobert, this would be his What he's going into
is what fourth year?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Third Yearbert?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Like his fourth year?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Yeah? Fourth, you got it?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Fourth year and that's what.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
I'm talking about you, Yes, And he's going into his
his fourth year. What hurts Obert so bad was that
that first year was just so discombobulated for him and
it kind of put him behind the eight ball with
the gentleman like for Sean Holden, who I think they
have a lot of similar skill set. He this is
like put up a shut up time, I believe for
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him in this with this wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Room, let me ask you, ladies, hypothetically, do you feel like,
because you have Cavanti Turpin in there as well, and
you've heard the term gadget guy used tossed around, you
don't necessarily know what the vision is with Schottenheimer taking
the reins, and you know, you don't know kind of
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where Cavanti could fit in in this wide receiver room.
Would you be willing to at this point, because he's
an established name, kind of say hey, it's time to
put him at more wide receiver than return guy. Are
you willing to take that chance if it means having
an established guy, or do you feel like it's fair
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to keep him what he's been doing. You have the
return guy, you have the production there, but he also
has special packages set up for him as well.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
I think that as a receiver, or even if you
use him on a fly sweep or McCarthy had him
out in the backfield a couple times, he's a threat.
But as a returner he's special. Yeah, he's special as
a returner, So I don't want to risk what he
can provide on special teams by over exposing him. And
(27:16):
he's a small guy. I mean, he's one hundred and
fifty seven pounds, so can wet.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I only ask because between him and Jalen Tolper obviously
Ceedee Lamb extracted from this whole conversation, those are your
two most experienced starters up until this point. Terrace Campbell
has your seven, but again not really a well known
established name for this team. So again some conversations linked
(27:42):
to Marii Cooper. Nothing set in stone. We're just kind
of we're all in limbo waiting to see how this
shakes out, But another position group that I wanted to
get into as well as the running back room, because
you're setting up the trenches to have a run game.
Who's gonna run the ball? A ghost? Because genuinely, there's
(28:05):
no established guy who is your set one right now,
and that's such an interesting thing going into this year.
And that's not necessarily a bad thing because you can
set him up for that success. But at this point
right now, do you see it being one of the
guys already you know, on the roster that's been here,
(28:28):
done that, or do you see it being a rookie
that kind of takes over that rain. Are you seeing
a one to two punch? Where do you kind of
see this run game going so far? Based on what
we're seeing and how they drafted.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yeah, I think we're gonna see guys with rolls, Yes,
especially Blue and MafA as we mentioned so and you
know it's gonna be real. I think Javonte Williams yeah,
and Sanders I think you know what you've got in
him and Williams, can he get back to the player
(28:58):
that he was that first year in Denver where he
could be a guy that would be kind of your
lead back. Ideally that would be great. But here's the thing.
You have invested so much and I don't mean just monetarily,
but in draft capital, number one picks on your offensive
line three out of the four years. If you're only
(29:20):
paying lip service to running the ball this year, that's
a problem because you have invested so much in those
guys blocking and taking the pressure off Dak in the
run game.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
So you have to.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Really stick with it this year. And I think that
adding those two draft picks late is helpful. But you know,
there are a couple of these guys, like your question
that you had before Jess about wide receivers, like who
were the veterans at the position that really need to
look out? I mean Malik Davis and Duce Vaughan.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
I mean do so much.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I'd like four percent of snaps last year on offense
and was a healthy scratch most weeks. And then Malik
Davis couldn't get promoted off of the practice squad. So
those guys are certainly on notice. And I'm real interested
to see what kind of role Lipkey has this year
because we know how McCarthy, you know, liked to use
(30:22):
him and envisioned using him a lot more in his
role continued to grow. I'm excited to see what Schottenheimer does,
and we're not going to see it in preseason games
because you're not going to reveal hand of how you
want to use people. But when we get to training
camp and get to watch the practices, that'll give us
a better idea.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Yeah, you talked about the investment. I mean not only
did you invest on the offensive line, you have invested
with the coaching staff as well. Sure, bringing in offensive
line coach Connor Riley from Kansas State and the successful
the success he had as an OC there also too,
and even with Clayton Adams, like seeing the efficiency that
they have with with that he had with the Cardinals
(31:03):
in rushing up per game in EPA. It's that's to
me also a part of the investment in the run
game and kind of points to the direction that you're
trying to run the ball. What I'm trying to figure
out is, I know the two ladies were talking about
the running back room. You're talking about the who's going
to be the lead back. I believe given the that
(31:23):
it was a trade or whatever the case would be,
I think, well, right, Javontae was acquired by trade?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Or was he by trade?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Right?
Speaker 4 (31:32):
I thought it was free agent, but I'll double.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I think it's free agency.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Oh okay, I was lost. No, no, no, it was
a free agency movie. Yes.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
So I think that Javonte Williams might start off as
the guy as that they lean on or whatever the
case may be. But these two rookies are coming, and
these two rookies, and we talk about this all the
time with different regimes, different things like that.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Like Circle of Life.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Absolutely so to me, I think Jaden Blue is going
to year change of pace back. I think that MafA
is gonna be more of like your bruiser. And if
Javonte Williams is going to give you anything, he has
versatility in a lot of ways as well. Really curious
to see where Miles Sanders fits as well, though, because
I don't know how many racks you're gonna even be
able to carry with how some things have panned out.
(32:19):
But like you said, with the running back round, it's
it is kind of weird to still not know for
a second year it who's who and who's doing Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
The thing I think what's different though, is the circumstances
surrounding it because you had established guys here at that
point in this locker room that just hadn't had chances.
Y'all know what I'm talking about, Rico Danell. But this
this current running backs roster. I mean, what's interesting about
Malik Davis? As you know, he kind of flew under
(32:49):
the radar and I want him to go out and
you know, fight for his spot. He's been here, he's
earned that. But when you if you're a Deuce Vaughn,
how do you fit into this when you're Hunter Lip.
I mean, it's there's just so many questions. I don't
think we're going to see shaken out until training camp.
But with that, let's get into in our next segment,
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going through the state of Texas. Very exciting this is
this is the first time that the cheerleaders have done
an on tour. They sell live performances throughout the state.
It's going to be awesome.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I will say all my Alpasto friends have been posting
and they're very excited for it, and I've been compting
like I better see you guys trying out then, like
every single one of you going, I need to see
the videos. So very good stuff there, Christy. All right, ladies,
let's get into important dates because Rookie Mintiecamp right around
(36:31):
the corner. Let's see Rookie Minti Camp can be either
held on May second through fifth, or May ninth through twelve, correct.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
So it starts on May second. It's going to be
at the end of weeks, okay, but at the end
of this week.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
And let's get into that a little bit more, because here,
I think this rookie class, especially with a new coaching regime,
is going to set a tone very quickly kind and
for how the rest camp plays out. And I'm interested
to see what the differences are between a McCarthy rookie
(37:06):
camp and a Shotenheimer rookie camp. Christy, what is the
importance of having this rookie minute camp, And more importantly,
how do you see a progression of who's ready.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
It's so important because it's really the only time that
a rookie is going to get the individual one on
one instruction from their position coach assistant position coach on
the field, because once you get to OTAs a week
later and you've got the veterans around, that's it. And
(37:36):
there are so few players that are out on the
field for a rookie camp. I can think of years
past where there would be one tight end on the field.
You would bring in one or two quarterbacks for tryouts,
just so you could have someone to throw the ball
to your wide receivers and your tight ends. Sometimes you
might only have you don't even have five offensive linemen
(37:59):
to make of full line. So so that individual attention
and the just working on the fundamentals and the technique.
The attention to detail is so important. So and the
way that that how one coach does it or another coach.
It's so proscribed or i should say restricted by league
(38:20):
rules of what you can do in the off season
on the field, what you can do class work wise,
because they don't want them to work too much. So
these rookie they're in addition to the rookie camp where
you're on the field for a few days with the coaches,
there's the developmental program and that's a seven week period
(38:40):
and it begins May twelfth. I'm talking about the off
field stuff with this development program, so it can't be
on the weekends, and it's it's about off the field
things as well as you know, getting into the playbook
as well, So it's it's very important. And then right
now just on the field, you know, we were having
lunch and could look out and see that we're in
(39:01):
Phase two. So the cowboy veteran players are out on
the field, but the offense is out there for thirty
minutes and then defense comes out for thirty minutes most
of the work. It's a half day, but you have
a special teams meeting. Offensive players have a meeting, defense
has a short meeting. And right now we're still we're
just in phase two of the off season program and
(39:25):
that goes for three weeks and then once we get
to phase three, that's when you start OTAs and that'll
be a little bit. It's in the first week in May,
but starting on like May fourth.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Right around the corner. Yeah, Aisha for you, I can't
believe this is not our first rodeo anymore? Can you
believe that when you look at rookie Minni Caamp? What
are some instant things you're kind of scouting out for
from these younger guys to I guess be noticed in
the right ways.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
I mean, honestly, how they's like you talked about Christy's
it's a unique opportunity for them to get coaching. So
how are they taking the coaching? Are they pouty because
you see in powering, if they powder, if you out
there you see the paladin, you see the huffing and
the puffins. Are they taking the coaching or do you
can you tell that they're listening, but also to My
(40:16):
biggest thing is seeing like there's not a lot to see, Like,
there's not too much you can look for, but just
the movement, the natural body movement, their confidence, they're the
way they present themselves and things like that. It tells
you a lot about it because their eyes wide open
coming in here, especially up in here, especially this place. Yeah,
(40:37):
they're learning so much at like you said, Christy, they're
going through learning so many different things at one time.
It's a huge adjustment. It's a big transition. How they're
taking on like that conflict I think says something about
the player, but mostly from like a film perspective. I'm
just looking at does this match kind of looking at Okay,
I thought that he had he was quick, he had
(40:58):
a quick first step. Does he really have a quick
first step seeing it in person? Has he made any
improvements from the time of the combine and things like
that or before that the Senior Bowl because people, a
lot of these kids keep working, they keep working on
their game, where they work with specialists, whatever the case
may be. So you can find little things like that book,
just confidence, movement, how they take coaching, their body language,
(41:20):
all that stuff that's all I really can take from yeah,
many camp for real.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
And you can see kind of where the coaches are
forecasting where they may end up. Like Johnny Cornelius who
played right tackle at ore again but when the Cowboys
drafted him, you know, guard most likely right, so if
they have him working at you know, you can see, okay,
they do have him, yes, us some information. Yeah, you're right,
(41:45):
you can figure out what the coaches are thinking from
that perspective. But really OTAs as well, but especially rookie
mini camp, it's just to acclimate beyond guys to this
is the structure.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Of practice and you know what, to be fair, I
wonder how much of that will be going on during
OTAs as well, just under Schottenheimer, right, And I'm interested
to see just kind of the differences in what we
were used to seeing from the MacCarthy era. Real quick, ladies,
before we go, I want to kind of get into
the starting jobs up for grabs, if not you know,
(42:20):
second spots, important high up roles that this team needs.
Are there any specific vets not the ones that we've
already mentioned, that need to have good camps, whether it
be starting and it starts at OTAs, and you know,
mandatory many camp and everything like that. Shotenheimer's put a
(42:42):
big emphasis on leadership and you've seen that through the
draft process. Like I usould mentioned earlier, who needs to
have their p's and q's ready to go? Everything is
spit spot perfect because they could be un notice going
into this camp.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Well, I would say, Jalen Tobert if he can rest
the number two jaw. I mean again, I think right,
I think I think the number two receiver is not
on the roster right now. Yeah, there's still moves to come.
But who's going to be the starting cornerback opposite Bland?
If Diggs isn't Here's it going to be elin?
Speaker 8 (43:18):
Who?
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Who?
Speaker 7 (43:19):
You?
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Who you brought in? I don't know so so I
mean there are spots to be had for sure. Yeah,
and then linebacker who's gonna step in there?
Speaker 3 (43:31):
You know?
Speaker 4 (43:32):
Leah Foul has a real chance to think mic.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
So yeah, I think he'll be your mic. But I
think Samborne will be there as well. But to answer
your question for me, is Loule Schoolmaker big dog? Big
dog like it's been it's been a couple of years now.
Obviously he's dealt with injuries mostly every training camp and
I believe.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
There was some kind of something done over the off
season as well. I'm not sure exactly what, but but
uh to your point, just an injury history.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Yeah, I think Luke Schoonmaker is a gentleman that needs
to be to be ready and prepared.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
For the hold off brevn span Ford.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
Uh No, I mean sure. I think Brevin span Ford
has a little bit of wiggle in the passing game.
Obviously you can split him out and he's he was
brought here for his block and ability. I am trying
to find my notes. He was brought here for his
block and ability. There it is, But I think that
(44:32):
the gentleman that they brought in from one second, one second,
let me get to it.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Ten.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Yes, the Titan from Ulle Neville from Virginia.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
Fairweather Voldo fair Weather is very intriguing for a number
of reasons. I think the block and ability is something
that can still improve. But he's exciting in the open field,
kind of a bully, big catch RaSE his strong hands.
I do think that he could make it this, make
(45:05):
this a little interesting from a tight end standpoint, I
or at least maybe push a Noah fan or one
of those gentlemen that's on this roster. Brevis span Ford,
if I'm not mistaken, was one of the higher paid
undrafted free agents last year. We'll see if that carries
anyway going into this year. But I think that wide
receiver two spot being up for grabs almost all the
(45:26):
last year. Nobody taking it, nobody taking it. Maybe one
of these youngins comes in and comes in and takes
it this year. You you need something.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
Well, the thing about Holden, we've talked about him as
an undrafted rookie free agent. Guess who his position coach
was at Oregon. Oh yeah, it's the new wide receiver
coach for the Cowboys junior ams. So there's familiarity there to.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Kind of put a bow on this as well. I'll
go further up and say that highre tight end room
baby talk about No. You know, I love the tight
end room and that is my favorite position. And but
here's the thing. We know Jake was dealing with injuries
last year, and he will be the first to tell
you that he did not have the season he wanted.
(46:09):
He even said that I believe, and we're going to
give him that grace because again, it was very un
Jake Ferguson last year. We know that everybody else are
What are you as a tight end and what role
do you play on this team? You don't know yet.
There's a lot of undistinguished question marks with this tight
(46:29):
end room that need to be distinguished and figured out,
because now if you have that run game, you have
that shored up offensive line, you have no reason to
keep continuing tying up your tight ends with just blocking
and they can be receiving threats and honestly they need to,
especially if they're still figuring out who the wide receiver
two is. You need your tight ends to be open.
(46:52):
You need to be able to have those options. For Dak,
especially coming off of injury. You don't know how mobile
he can be. You just need to have everything ready
and prepare for him to be successful as well. So
for me, that whole tight end room is kind of
another one another guy. Last thought that came to my
mind with Sam Williams and we know he's coming off
(47:13):
of an injury. I'm not sure what his progression is
as far as how his rehab is going all that.
Haven't spoken him or really seen any updates on that.
But ez irak Wu coming in really has rocked that
de room, let me tell you, because it was already
stiff competition for Sam, who was on the rise right
before his injury. So I'm interested to see kind of
(47:33):
how he comes back. But I think he's another guy
that unfortunately is getting shuffled in with these names and
kind of pushed towards the bottom because of injury, and
he didn't get a chance to really prove last year
what he could do because of it.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
That's a really good point. Yeah, that's a really good point.
This is this will be Sam's yeah, fourth as well.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
And just off the field stuff and his health. For me,
he hasn't reached his potential yet. R. Then you've also
got Nyland who had the injury last year.
Speaker 5 (48:04):
I'm a little bit more confident he's my nugget.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
But I know, I don't mean questions about Nyland. I
think you know exactly what you have in Land. I
mean Sam Williams competing with mess so either.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
So yeah, it's a lot of questions unanswered as the
weeks ago. We will figure it out together. We are
all in this together, ladies, because we're in for a
very long off season. But it's gone by quick, Christy,
thank you for joining us. We love having you on
as always. We love you so much and keep killing it.
(48:42):
Just love, love your work. I love you, and congratulations
on another successful draft because we we just know. I
take you forecast and all the things.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
I take a deep breath now, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 5 (48:54):
I honestly, y'all, I had to. I put on Twitter.
I took some time to take care of my mental
and physical health this off season. It's been good to me.
I appreciate the time. I'm happy that we know who
the Nuggets are, so now I can just study the Nuggets.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
The thing is go from here. I was gonna say,
even despite that, you're gonna put your best effort and
you already have to studying, and we love you for that.
But all right, ladies, we are out of time. Thank
you guys for joining us for another fun, exciting, thrilling
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(49:30):
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Now your host, Nicole Hutchison.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Siche Welcome to Girls Talk Boys Talk, brought to you
byen vis Line. Here with Christy Scales, Aishan Morrison, I'm
your host for the day, Jess Navarrees. Nicole has taking
a little well to served day off. We love her.
We miss our same thing with Bree. She's working some
pretty cool events as well, so we'll get to hear
about that next week. But ladies, we did it. We
made it. We made it to the other side. Oh yes,
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it is post draft. The Cowboys have their rookie class.
There's so much to get into, but I just want
to go into your initial thoughts of how the Cowboys
ran picking these selections and overall.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
What you thought of their bored go ahead, solid, not
sexy right off the bat. There you go, that's it,
but it could be could become sexy if Asuaku and
then Revel if they live up to some of the
expectations and some of the what's being forecast of their roles.
I know Revel's coming off in injury there, but yeah,
(01:33):
and then Jaden Blue with the running back, the first
of two running backs taken, could be like Pollard early
in his career, kind of out of the backfield catching
the ball but basically or hand off, you know, some
speed and being a home run hitter. So I know
that Cowboys nation overall, I'm not I know that every
(01:53):
one of you watching it doesn't necessarily agree with this.
We all have our different opinions, but I think overall
Cowboys was a bit disappointed when they didn't get a
wide receiver or go with the running back earlier. But
if you believe in the mantra of sticking to your
board and best player available, then I don't see how
(02:15):
you can complain about the way the Cowboys handle this draft.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yeah, I mean and their BPA and our BPA, Like
there's there's a humbling that comes with this and being
even being the time that I had the opportunity to
be like a media scout like.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
It is.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Their They're professionals for a reason. They do this every day.
And I think that's the biggest thing I took from
the draft, like you said, Christy, is that they just
took their board. They didn't try to reach, they didn't
try to do anything extra. As a matter of fact,
they got fantastic value on some of these guys when
you look within the numbers and where people had them ranked.
(02:52):
I think they are also too from a lot of
the conversations and going through the roster, a lot of
team captains, a lot of leadership guys. That goes back
to the pre draft presser. Knowing the person, knowing the player,
wanted to understand their love for football and things like that.
This is also a lot of these gentlemen were not
just taken because of the capability. They were taken because
(03:14):
of the temperament and trying to re establish, you know,
something new Shoddy get in his feel what he wants
to locker room to feel like. I think that's a
big played a big role in some of the guys
that we drafted as well.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Absolutely, And so let's go down our list of the
newest Dallas Cowboys. We have guard Tyler Booker. Obviously it's
turtle like, can we count that as love the Turtle.
Let's see. We have defensive end Donovan Ezraku, cornerback Savante Revel.
I'm sorry if I'm saying these wrong. I practiced like
(03:46):
twenty times before we started recording. Running back Jaden Blue,
linebacker Shamar James, offensive tackle Johnny Cornelius, defensive tackle Jay Tuia,
running back Film Afa, and defensive tackle Tommy A. King
King Basote. We're gonna get it. Look, there's one, there's
(04:09):
another one of our names. We have to practice.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
King make me and make me have to stand up.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
You already know I have puns ready.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I'm just thinking of my friends in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Cowboys haven't even started yet, or.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
The equipment staff just trying to you know, like checking
it eight times before they put it across the back
of the jersey.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I mean me trying to spell it out, just to
pronounce it right. Guys. Out of those names, and of
course we can get into the undrafted free agents you know,
at some later point. But out of the drafted rookies,
who do you feel like can contribute quickly?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
And why Booker just uh, I think it's going to
be plug and play, and uh, I'm interested in y'all's
opinion on this, because in past UH staffs, iterations of
just that have come through the rookies. You know, supposedly
they have to earn it right and there'll be a
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veteran in front of them, and then midway through camp
they'll overtake them. But I wonder if Booker's just going
to be put it right guard, you know, with the
first team from day one, or will they go ahead
and have Brack Kaufman out there until, you know, give
it a you know, some practices or with Booker what,
(05:26):
how do you think they're going to handle it.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I just don't what's the point of that anymore? I mean,
earn it, having him earn it, I get, I get
the idea of it. But at the same time, this
is a first round pick. You expect immediate and you
expect immediate production or immediate impact. So it's like, I
don't know, I don't, I don't, I don't know. And
(05:50):
then also too with with Brock Kaufman, I wonder how
he's feeling right now, with the work he's put in
and things like that, Like maybe that's a discussion they
have with him. But if they compete, fine, but I
think he'll end up being the starter at the end
of well.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
But you know, you'd say the same thing about Tyler Goyton.
And if a Doga had not gotten hurt in camp,
a dooga I think would have been the starter on
day one, and Gydon became the starter with a dooga
out and then when Adoga came back, Geiton couldn't hold
on to a spot.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
And that's based on ability, though I feel it is.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
But we were saying the same thing last year because
Giton was your number one pick.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Some people will I always had my questions.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
That's fair, but that's fair. Do you feel like this
guard competition is already kind of set in the coaching
staff's minds for who they want is the starter or
do you feel like it's one of those things Christy
and you go into training camp, you duke it out
and best man comes out your starter.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I think it's more than lip service. I think I
think that it's a real.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Thing because not physically duke it out.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
No, no, exactly, that's clear, that's true. No, I mean
you do have to it has to be more than
lip service. It there really does need to be the
competition because the NFL is a game of attrition, and guys,
they're all gonna end up, most of them are gonna
end up playing and having a chance to contribute at
some point, even if it's starting one or two or
(07:14):
three games a kind of thing. So they need to
be ready and you also need to keep them engaged.
So yeah, I still think Booker is going to be
the starter from day one. But but you you still
need to have guys have a reason out there to
give one hundred percent every day.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
He's gonna have his uh, he's gonna have his times
and things like that. But again going back to my
original point, the temperament I think is going to be
a big driving force with this, especially with this offensive line.
I think they're trying to muddy things up a little bit.
I think they're trying to get a little nasty there.
As far as to answer your question, who do I
think that out of the class that can come in
and help you right away? It's very difficult. You already
(07:54):
win Booker. I'm gonna say Jaden Blue okay out of
Texas running back, mostly because you have not had a
gentleman that has real second level breakaway speed for a
while and even the couple, even the last few years
of Tony Poller are dealing with his injury. Coming off
of his injury, we didn't see that explosiveness at the
(08:17):
second level until maybe the end of the season. So
you have a guy that can really threaten the defense.
It's gonna make you pay if you take bad angles.
I am ecstatic about that, paired with Clayton Adams coming
in Tyler Booker kind of what they're trying to do
on this interior. Jaden Blue being added to this running
back room and being a real speed threat and a
(08:38):
receiving threat and a receiving threat as well is something
that I'm really looking forward to in this offense. So
I'm gonna go with him. I'm gonna go with him.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah, and now as Roku as well.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah, I mean yeah, she made us pick one.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
But he's gonna get a lot of He's gonna get
a lot of opportunity.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Maybe that was is we wanted to Ezu Rako, get it, get.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
It, get it in jail as a rock goo.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Oh my god, we really need to practice that off
camera and we'll practice and then we'll come back together
on that. Well, I only pause this here because you know,
the Cowboys went firmly on their board and they weren't
winging it per se. On the other hand, here on
Girls Talk, Boys Talk, we're going to play a game
called winging it. And Aisha had this fantastic idea and
(09:32):
she made me really want to go to wing Stop.
So we are going to base our favorite wing flavors
from wing Stop off of how we rate these picks.
And furthermore, maybe not who can be a plug and
play player, but who intrigues you the most and what
flavor you're giving them going into their rookie season. Aisha,
(09:54):
who is winging it for you?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Who's winging it? Winging it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Out of West flavor, out of the draft class, out
of the draft flavor? Are we talking? And why?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Okay, I'm gonna go with Chavon Revel cornerback out of
East Carolina, number one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I know,
I got him, I got him. I'm gonna go, Yes,
I'm gonna I'm gonna give him casion. That's what I'm
gonna go with. I'm gonna go with the Cajun rub
because his game is already you see what he's able
(10:28):
to do in the press He's very physical as a tackler.
He's not afraid to come up and tackle. He got
some feisty to him. East Carolina's been pushing out some talent, y'all.
I'm glad to see their program improving. But if obviously
he's dealing with the recovery from the injury, if he
comes back and he is, you know, he can fill
in that you know, cornerback, two spot, or whatever the
case may be. You get that little kick mid season,
(10:50):
you get that little kick at the end of it
or whenever he is he is ready to go, And
I think that that would really up this defense that
I do think is has done some things to improve
their front seven. I think that secondary still is kind
of like what's gonna happen there? If you can get
that little kick, that little Cajun kick at the end,
and it's a rub, it's not a sauce, so it's
not gonna be too blatant. It's just gonna be like, Okay, yeah,
(11:13):
you know it's there, but you're gonna feel it a
little later.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
When you read the description at Wingstop, it says tossed
in original hot, dusted with bold and zesty Cajun seasonings.
So you're expecting bold and zesty.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
What we're hearing, Yeah, with a little kick, a little kissy,
I think he could really boost your your secondary But
your cornerback room needs a guy to come in with
some of the injuries and things that guys are coming
back from, You're gonna need a kick from one of
these corners.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
And going into training camp, Christine season.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I'm gonna go and Shade and Blue is atomic?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah atomic. Let's see it's the hottest we've got.
Find out for yourself.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
That's the discreption because he's he's gonna be your home
run hitter. I think yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
And do you feel like that sets the precedent high
for him to go into this training camp and you know,
even rookie camp and all that, to be have the mindset, hey,
I could be at the starting running back of this
team or do you feel like that's ready set?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Well, I think your mindset should always be that you're
going to be on the starter. But I think that
what's great about coming in with this kind of expectation
being a fifth round pick or you know, MafA in
the seventh round. They can be part of a rotation
just like we were talking about Aziraku being part of
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a rotation at defensive end and not having to handle
sixty snaps a game. You know, if you're coming in
and you're getting twenty twenty five snaps and you can
be fresh and you can have a role, especially in
an offense like this that sometimes you describe it as
a multiple offense, so you know where you want to
be good at lots of different things, but you can
(13:04):
you can carve a niche, right, you can have your
own role. And so I think that for some players,
in terms of expectations and where you're taken in the draft,
it may I won't say easier, because you should still
have that kind of self imposed pressure that desire to
want to be a starter. But the reality is I
think that that the young guys will be given a.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Role real quick. I wanted to play in this game. Yes,
of course, you know I'm going Tyler Booker, and that's
because hear me out. He's the description of this wing flavor.
It's sweet with heat and then some Seriously, when I
read that description so far, the impression we got from
(13:49):
Tyler Booker was a genuine, down to earth guy that
is just so easy to like, and I understand why
Schottenheimer had this draw to him as a player. Yeah,
sweet and easy, correct, But then with the heat. You
look at what he does on the field and it's
very Tyler Smith ESQ. Where you talk to him and
(14:13):
so easy to talk to, very likable, very easy to follow,
But then you see what they do on the field
and it brings the heat. I just love the stat
and I found this from ESPN that he gave up
one sack in nine hundred and seventy pass blocking snaps
in his three in three college seasons. That's heat, if
you ask me. And also bolstering up the run. Oh
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my gosh, I'm so excited, guys. I'm so excited for
what he's going to do for this offensive line, just
absolutely making sure there's no excuse to not have a
solid run game because guess what started in the interiors,
it's making its way out and you just set up
whoever you're running back slash running backs will be for
the heat. So had to go with Tyler because again,
(14:57):
just hearing him during that press conference, he's he's so
magnetic and I had to give him that credit.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Girl, learning the backstories of these guys. Yeah, and here
in for him from them the first time and Ricky Camp,
the media will get a chance to talk with the
guys on Friday and Saturday. So here at the Star
in Frisco. Ricky Camp takes place Friday and Saturday, so
that'll be a time where you can get some one
on one and not just in big groups. But I'm
(15:27):
really excited to talk to Ravel because this is a
kid who was working over nights at an Amazon facility
right loading trucks and scanning packages and the like. And
he was a great athlete in high school, played cornerback
and wide receiver, a little bit of quarterback. But he
(15:50):
didn't qualify for any Division I schools because he was
academically ineligible and had to play two years at junior college.
But East Carolina and gave him a chance to play,
and after a twenty twenty three breakout season he would
There were reports, and it was a great story by
Chris Lowe on ESPN dot com, that he was getting
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offers of upwards of six hundred thousand dollars in nil
money to go elsewhere and play at one of these
big programs, but he stayed true to East Carolina which
is the one that gave him a shot, and he
stayed there and then he ends up being drafted in
the third round despite torn acl and meniscus partial meniscus tear,
(16:34):
and so he stayed true and it paid off for him,
and he's one of these high character guys that Ayisha
was talking about the importance and the focus on the
draft and that.
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Speaker 3 (19:31):
Welcome back to Girls Talkboys Talk Prevent It presented Oh
my goodness bye. In visit line, we have Christy Aisha
Jess here with you in our second segment, Ladies. Christy
brought this up earlier. There was a train, imaginary train
that a lot of people were on, and it was
the train of the Cowboys drafting a wide receiver in
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the first round. But just at any point in that train,
it came and it and in fact it was an
imaginary train because it never existed. Didn't happen. I us
she was on that train. I think she was a
conductor of that train.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Hey, I was important to me to go skill and
at some point in time, and they did that with
the at least skin and jaydah On balloon.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
So there you go. But let's talk about this because
that wide receiver room, we've discussed it on here before.
Needing desperately needing another target for Jack Prescott other than
seed lamb correct and a solid wide receiver. Two. Does
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this worry you that, Yes, the Cowboys went out and
got some undrafted free agents. Tray Shawn Holden from Oregon
and then Josh Kelly from Texas Tech. However, on a
scale of one to ten, post draft, what is your
worry level for this wide receiver? Ring the alarm.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Girl, I had to say it and he had to
be mad.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Yeah, But at the same time, it goes back to
what we talked about at the very top. Sure, we
wanted skill position players, but we also want best athlete
available and sticking to your board. They said post draft
that there were only twelve players that they had with
first round grades. Apparently only one of them was a
wide receiver, and it's the one who who winn t
(21:23):
Mac went off the board at eight to care Atlina.
So if they'd have taken Golden, then that would have
been or any of the other wide receivers that would
have been a reach. At twelve. They said that they
did have They were on the phone and there was
an opportunity to trade down, but the deal wasn't good enough.
So do you hold their feet to the fire and
(21:44):
say you should have taken a wide receiver or do
you praise them for sticking to the board.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
So can you have both in this situation? Can you
have both?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Well, it didn't work out at number twelve without able
to trade down now where you can hold their feet
to the fire. Is also same thing with free agency.
But it's not done yet. I mean there's still trades
to be made out there, and I know there's people
that linka Marii Cooper and Keenan Allen. But Keenan Allen
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his base salary is eighteen point one million, you know,
So if you make a straight trade and don't renegotiate anything,
you've got CD at what thirty three million a year?
And then if you pay Keenan eighteen so it's you know, tough.
By the way, we should mention that you've got eight
million on the cap for a wide receiver who's been
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gone and that's Michael Gallup. So there are resources that
are being devoted to wide receiver even if the guys
aren't here. But yes, it's very disappointing that they that
you come out of the draft and you still have
a glaring hole.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
What about you level?
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Yeah, I'm very concerned about it. I do, like, I
do understand that a lot of Clayton Adams system is
going to be play action and stuff like that, and
it is up too seed to scheme guys open and
things like that. But for the last two three years,
one of the biggest consensus has been, you get in
the playoff, you either can't run the ball or they
just bracket CD and that's it. It's night night.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
You have not He.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Deserves for them to sign him to his contract. He
deserves someone to take pressure off of him. He deserves
someone on the other side of him, just like Jake
Ferguson deserves so a two that is going to be
consistent as well. We'll get through that later.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
But I just.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
It's too much. I think we've tried the I think
Jalen Tolbert is solid. I saw him not be able
to get out for press. I saw him not be
able to have a real breakaway speed. I mean, you
brought in Jonathan Mingo, which again I want to be
fair to him because I want to give him a
shot to show what he's capable of with elevated quarterback play.
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I just want to see how he connects. He came
in late last season, it probably took him some time
to get the playbook. Now he's on a whole new playbook.
Let's give him a chance. But other than that, like
Ryan Flinoy interesting. None of these gentlemen are proven. None
of these guys are proven, and I just think going
into this season without another proven wide receiver is crazy,
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crazy to me. And I know that we're going to
get into some of the udfas because Treshawn Holden from
Oregon is interesting. He's interesting for multitude of reasons. If
this wide receiver room shapes out, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Going through the depth chart right now, I'm looking at her,
I guess the roster. I shouldn't say the depth chart
the roster. Jalen Brooks, Paris Campbell, Ryan Flinoy, Calvin Harmon,
Ceedeelamb obviously, Jonathan Mingo, Jalen Cropper, Jalen Tolbert, Cavanti Turpin,
and let's see Seth Williams. Those are your current wide receivers.
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Out of the names that I mentioned, who do you
feel like is I don't want to say on notice,
but needs to have a near perfect camp to continue
getting opportunities, especially with talented undrafted free agents coming in
and potentially, you know, if there's some action in free
agency still at some point, I go.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Ahead, I would say Jayleen Tobert, Jonathan Mingo is gonna
give some grace because again he was they gave up
a fourth for him, they would have and got him
Jayleen Tobert, this would be his What he's going into
is what fourth year?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Third Yearbert?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Like his fourth year?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Yeah? Fourth, you got it?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Fourth year and that's what.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
I'm talking about you, Yes, And he's going into his
his fourth year. What hurts Obert so bad was that
that first year was just so discombobulated for him and
it kind of put him behind the eight ball with
the gentleman like for Sean Holden, who I think they
have a lot of similar skill set. He this is
like put up a shut up time, I believe for
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him in this with this wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Room, let me ask you, ladies, hypothetically, do you feel like,
because you have Cavanti Turpin in there as well, and
you've heard the term gadget guy used tossed around, you
don't necessarily know what the vision is with Schottenheimer taking
the reins, and you know, you don't know kind of
(26:26):
where Cavanti could fit in in this wide receiver room.
Would you be willing to at this point, because he's
an established name, kind of say hey, it's time to
put him at more wide receiver than return guy. Are
you willing to take that chance if it means having
an established guy, or do you feel like it's fair
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to keep him what he's been doing. You have the
return guy, you have the production there, but he also
has special packages set up for him as well.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
I think that as a receiver, or even if you
use him on a fly sweep or McCarthy had him
out in the backfield a couple times, he's a threat.
But as a returner he's special. Yeah, he's special as
a returner, So I don't want to risk what he
can provide on special teams by over exposing him. And
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he's a small guy. I mean, he's one hundred and
fifty seven pounds, so can wet.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I only ask because between him and Jalen Tolper obviously
Ceedee Lamb extracted from this whole conversation, those are your
two most experienced starters up until this point. Terrace Campbell
has your seven, but again not really a well known
established name for this team. So again some conversations linked
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to Marii Cooper. Nothing set in stone. We're just kind
of we're all in limbo waiting to see how this
shakes out, But another position group that I wanted to
get into as well as the running back room, because
you're setting up the trenches to have a run game.
Who's gonna run the ball? A ghost? Because genuinely, there's
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no established guy who is your set one right now,
and that's such an interesting thing going into this year.
And that's not necessarily a bad thing because you can
set him up for that success. But at this point
right now, do you see it being one of the
guys already you know, on the roster that's been here,
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done that, or do you see it being a rookie
that kind of takes over that rain. Are you seeing
a one to two punch? Where do you kind of
see this run game going so far? Based on what
we're seeing and how they drafted.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yeah, I think we're gonna see guys with rolls, Yes,
especially Blue and MafA as we mentioned so and you
know it's gonna be real. I think Javonte Williams yeah,
and Sanders I think you know what you've got in
him and Williams, can he get back to the player
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that he was that first year in Denver where he
could be a guy that would be kind of your
lead back. Ideally that would be great. But here's the thing.
You have invested so much and I don't mean just monetarily,
but in draft capital, number one picks on your offensive
line three out of the four years. If you're only
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paying lip service to running the ball this year, that's
a problem because you have invested so much in those
guys blocking and taking the pressure off Dak in the
run game.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
So you have to.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Really stick with it this year. And I think that
adding those two draft picks late is helpful. But you know,
there are a couple of these guys, like your question
that you had before Jess about wide receivers, like who
were the veterans at the position that really need to
look out? I mean Malik Davis and Duce Vaughan.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
I mean do so much.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I'd like four percent of snaps last year on offense
and was a healthy scratch most weeks. And then Malik
Davis couldn't get promoted off of the practice squad. So
those guys are certainly on notice. And I'm real interested
to see what kind of role Lipkey has this year
because we know how McCarthy, you know, liked to use
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him and envisioned using him a lot more in his
role continued to grow. I'm excited to see what Schottenheimer does,
and we're not going to see it in preseason games
because you're not going to reveal hand of how you
want to use people. But when we get to training
camp and get to watch the practices, that'll give us
a better idea.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Yeah, you talked about the investment. I mean not only
did you invest on the offensive line, you have invested
with the coaching staff as well. Sure, bringing in offensive
line coach Connor Riley from Kansas State and the successful
the success he had as an OC there also too,
and even with Clayton Adams, like seeing the efficiency that
they have with with that he had with the Cardinals
(31:03):
in rushing up per game in EPA. It's that's to
me also a part of the investment in the run
game and kind of points to the direction that you're
trying to run the ball. What I'm trying to figure
out is, I know the two ladies were talking about
the running back room. You're talking about the who's going
to be the lead back. I believe given the that
(31:23):
it was a trade or whatever the case would be,
I think, well, right, Javontae was acquired by trade?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Or was he by trade?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Right?
Speaker 4 (31:32):
I thought it was free agent, but I'll double.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I think it's free agency.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Oh okay, I was lost. No, no, no, it was
a free agency movie. Yes.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
So I think that Javonte Williams might start off as
the guy as that they lean on or whatever the
case may be. But these two rookies are coming, and
these two rookies, and we talk about this all the
time with different regimes, different things like that.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Like Circle of Life.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Absolutely so to me, I think Jaden Blue is going
to year change of pace back. I think that MafA
is gonna be more of like your bruiser. And if
Javonte Williams is going to give you anything, he has
versatility in a lot of ways as well. Really curious
to see where Miles Sanders fits as well, though, because
I don't know how many racks you're gonna even be
able to carry with how some things have panned out.
(32:19):
But like you said, with the running back round, it's
it is kind of weird to still not know for
a second year it who's who and who's doing Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
The thing I think what's different though, is the circumstances
surrounding it because you had established guys here at that
point in this locker room that just hadn't had chances.
Y'all know what I'm talking about, Rico Danell. But this
this current running backs roster. I mean, what's interesting about
Malik Davis? As you know, he kind of flew under
(32:49):
the radar and I want him to go out and
you know, fight for his spot. He's been here, he's
earned that. But when you if you're a Deuce Vaughn,
how do you fit into this when you're Hunter Lip.
I mean, it's there's just so many questions. I don't
think we're going to see shaken out until training camp.
But with that, let's get into in our next segment,
(33:13):
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going through the state of Texas. Very exciting this is
this is the first time that the cheerleaders have done
an on tour. They sell live performances throughout the state.
It's going to be awesome.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I will say all my Alpasto friends have been posting
and they're very excited for it, and I've been compting
like I better see you guys trying out then, like
every single one of you going, I need to see
the videos. So very good stuff there, Christy. All right, ladies,
let's get into important dates because Rookie Mintiecamp right around
(36:31):
the corner. Let's see Rookie Minti Camp can be either
held on May second through fifth, or May ninth through twelve, correct.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
So it starts on May second. It's going to be
at the end of weeks, okay, but at the end
of this week.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
And let's get into that a little bit more, because here,
I think this rookie class, especially with a new coaching regime,
is going to set a tone very quickly kind and
for how the rest camp plays out. And I'm interested
to see what the differences are between a McCarthy rookie
(37:06):
camp and a Shotenheimer rookie camp. Christy, what is the
importance of having this rookie minute camp, And more importantly,
how do you see a progression of who's ready.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
It's so important because it's really the only time that
a rookie is going to get the individual one on
one instruction from their position coach assistant position coach on
the field, because once you get to OTAs a week
later and you've got the veterans around, that's it. And
(37:36):
there are so few players that are out on the
field for a rookie camp. I can think of years
past where there would be one tight end on the field.
You would bring in one or two quarterbacks for tryouts,
just so you could have someone to throw the ball
to your wide receivers and your tight ends. Sometimes you
might only have you don't even have five offensive linemen
(37:59):
to make of full line. So so that individual attention
and the just working on the fundamentals and the technique.
The attention to detail is so important. So and the
way that that how one coach does it or another coach.
It's so proscribed or i should say restricted by league
(38:20):
rules of what you can do in the off season
on the field, what you can do class work wise,
because they don't want them to work too much. So
these rookie they're in addition to the rookie camp where
you're on the field for a few days with the coaches,
there's the developmental program and that's a seven week period
(38:40):
and it begins May twelfth. I'm talking about the off
field stuff with this development program, so it can't be
on the weekends, and it's it's about off the field
things as well as you know, getting into the playbook
as well, So it's it's very important. And then right
now just on the field, you know, we were having
lunch and could look out and see that we're in
(39:01):
Phase two. So the cowboy veteran players are out on
the field, but the offense is out there for thirty
minutes and then defense comes out for thirty minutes most
of the work. It's a half day, but you have
a special teams meeting. Offensive players have a meeting, defense
has a short meeting. And right now we're still we're
just in phase two of the off season program and
(39:25):
that goes for three weeks and then once we get
to phase three, that's when you start OTAs and that'll
be a little bit. It's in the first week in May,
but starting on like May fourth.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Right around the corner. Yeah, Aisha for you, I can't
believe this is not our first rodeo anymore? Can you
believe that when you look at rookie Minni Caamp? What
are some instant things you're kind of scouting out for
from these younger guys to I guess be noticed in
the right ways.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
I mean, honestly, how they's like you talked about Christy's
it's a unique opportunity for them to get coaching. So
how are they taking the coaching? Are they pouty because
you see in powering, if they powder, if you out
there you see the paladin, you see the huffing and
the puffins. Are they taking the coaching or do you
can you tell that they're listening, but also to My
(40:16):
biggest thing is seeing like there's not a lot to see, Like,
there's not too much you can look for, but just
the movement, the natural body movement, their confidence, they're the
way they present themselves and things like that. It tells
you a lot about it because their eyes wide open
coming in here, especially up in here, especially this place. Yeah,
(40:37):
they're learning so much at like you said, Christy, they're
going through learning so many different things at one time.
It's a huge adjustment. It's a big transition. How they're
taking on like that conflict I think says something about
the player, but mostly from like a film perspective. I'm
just looking at does this match kind of looking at Okay,
I thought that he had he was quick, he had
(40:58):
a quick first step. Does he really have a quick
first step seeing it in person? Has he made any
improvements from the time of the combine and things like
that or before that the Senior Bowl because people, a
lot of these kids keep working, they keep working on
their game, where they work with specialists, whatever the case
may be. So you can find little things like that book,
just confidence, movement, how they take coaching, their body language,
(41:20):
all that stuff that's all I really can take from yeah,
many camp for real.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
And you can see kind of where the coaches are
forecasting where they may end up. Like Johnny Cornelius who
played right tackle at ore again but when the Cowboys
drafted him, you know, guard most likely right, so if
they have him working at you know, you can see, okay,
they do have him, yes, us some information. Yeah, you're right,
(41:45):
you can figure out what the coaches are thinking from
that perspective. But really OTAs as well, but especially rookie
mini camp, it's just to acclimate beyond guys to this
is the structure.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Of practice and you know what, to be fair, I
wonder how much of that will be going on during
OTAs as well, just under Schottenheimer, right, And I'm interested
to see just kind of the differences in what we
were used to seeing from the MacCarthy era. Real quick, ladies,
before we go, I want to kind of get into
the starting jobs up for grabs, if not you know,
(42:20):
second spots, important high up roles that this team needs.
Are there any specific vets not the ones that we've
already mentioned, that need to have good camps, whether it
be starting and it starts at OTAs, and you know,
mandatory many camp and everything like that. Shotenheimer's put a
(42:42):
big emphasis on leadership and you've seen that through the
draft process. Like I usould mentioned earlier, who needs to
have their p's and q's ready to go? Everything is
spit spot perfect because they could be un notice going
into this camp.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Well, I would say, Jalen Tobert if he can rest
the number two jaw. I mean again, I think right,
I think I think the number two receiver is not
on the roster right now. Yeah, there's still moves to come.
But who's going to be the starting cornerback opposite Bland?
If Diggs isn't Here's it going to be elin?
Speaker 8 (43:18):
Who?
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Who?
Speaker 7 (43:19):
You?
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Who you brought in? I don't know so so I
mean there are spots to be had for sure. Yeah,
and then linebacker who's gonna step in there?
Speaker 3 (43:31):
You know?
Speaker 4 (43:32):
Leah Foul has a real chance to think mic.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
So yeah, I think he'll be your mic. But I
think Samborne will be there as well. But to answer
your question for me, is Loule Schoolmaker big dog? Big
dog like it's been it's been a couple of years now.
Obviously he's dealt with injuries mostly every training camp and
I believe.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
There was some kind of something done over the off
season as well. I'm not sure exactly what, but but
uh to your point, just an injury history.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Yeah, I think Luke Schoonmaker is a gentleman that needs
to be to be ready and prepared.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
For the hold off brevn span Ford.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
Uh No, I mean sure. I think Brevin span Ford
has a little bit of wiggle in the passing game.
Obviously you can split him out and he's he was
brought here for his block and ability. I am trying
to find my notes. He was brought here for his
block and ability. There it is, But I think that
(44:32):
the gentleman that they brought in from one second, one second,
let me get to it.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Ten.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Yes, the Titan from Ulle Neville from Virginia.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
Fairweather Voldo fair Weather is very intriguing for a number
of reasons. I think the block and ability is something
that can still improve. But he's exciting in the open field,
kind of a bully, big catch RaSE his strong hands.
I do think that he could make it this, make
(45:05):
this a little interesting from a tight end standpoint, I
or at least maybe push a Noah fan or one
of those gentlemen that's on this roster. Brevis span Ford,
if I'm not mistaken, was one of the higher paid
undrafted free agents last year. We'll see if that carries
anyway going into this year. But I think that wide
receiver two spot being up for grabs almost all the
(45:26):
last year. Nobody taking it, nobody taking it. Maybe one
of these youngins comes in and comes in and takes
it this year. You you need something.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
Well, the thing about Holden, we've talked about him as
an undrafted rookie free agent. Guess who his position coach
was at Oregon. Oh yeah, it's the new wide receiver
coach for the Cowboys junior ams. So there's familiarity there to.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Kind of put a bow on this as well. I'll
go further up and say that highre tight end room
baby talk about No. You know, I love the tight
end room and that is my favorite position. And but
here's the thing. We know Jake was dealing with injuries
last year, and he will be the first to tell
you that he did not have the season he wanted.
(46:09):
He even said that I believe, and we're going to
give him that grace because again, it was very un
Jake Ferguson last year. We know that everybody else are
What are you as a tight end and what role
do you play on this team? You don't know yet.
There's a lot of undistinguished question marks with this tight
(46:29):
end room that need to be distinguished and figured out,
because now if you have that run game, you have
that shored up offensive line, you have no reason to
keep continuing tying up your tight ends with just blocking
and they can be receiving threats and honestly they need to,
especially if they're still figuring out who the wide receiver
two is. You need your tight ends to be open.
(46:52):
You need to be able to have those options. For Dak,
especially coming off of injury. You don't know how mobile
he can be. You just need to have everything ready
and prepare for him to be successful as well. So
for me, that whole tight end room is kind of
another one another guy. Last thought that came to my
mind with Sam Williams and we know he's coming off
(47:13):
of an injury. I'm not sure what his progression is
as far as how his rehab is going all that.
Haven't spoken him or really seen any updates on that.
But ez irak Wu coming in really has rocked that
de room, let me tell you, because it was already
stiff competition for Sam, who was on the rise right
before his injury. So I'm interested to see kind of
(47:33):
how he comes back. But I think he's another guy
that unfortunately is getting shuffled in with these names and
kind of pushed towards the bottom because of injury, and
he didn't get a chance to really prove last year
what he could do because of it.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
That's a really good point. Yeah, that's a really good point.
This is this will be Sam's yeah, fourth as well.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
And just off the field stuff and his health. For me,
he hasn't reached his potential yet. R. Then you've also
got Nyland who had the injury last year.
Speaker 5 (48:04):
I'm a little bit more confident he's my nugget.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
But I know, I don't mean questions about Nyland. I
think you know exactly what you have in Land. I
mean Sam Williams competing with mess so either.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
So yeah, it's a lot of questions unanswered as the
weeks ago. We will figure it out together. We are
all in this together, ladies, because we're in for a
very long off season. But it's gone by quick, Christy,
thank you for joining us. We love having you on
as always. We love you so much and keep killing it.
(48:42):
Just love, love your work. I love you, and congratulations
on another successful draft because we we just know. I
take you forecast and all the things.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
I take a deep breath now, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 5 (48:54):
I honestly, y'all, I had to. I put on Twitter.
I took some time to take care of my mental
and physical health this off season. It's been good to me.
I appreciate the time. I'm happy that we know who
the Nuggets are, so now I can just study the Nuggets.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
The thing is go from here. I was gonna say,
even despite that, you're gonna put your best effort and
you already have to studying, and we love you for that.
But all right, ladies, we are out of time. Thank
you guys for joining us for another fun, exciting, thrilling
your favorite episode of Girls Boys Talk presented. Bye in
VISI line. We'll see you at same time, same place
(49:30):
next Tuesday. Have a great day and make good choices
and drink water.
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